I reckon we give everyone their TVC IR missiles. It’ll be fun for minor nations.
None of the Eurocanards BVR capability exceeds that of their US counterparts. The only on that comes close is the Typhoon, yet it is only just close to getting AESAs, 20 years behind the curve.
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Typhoon will never be artificially nerfed because it’s not as good as you think it is.
Gripen isn’t, and never was; In-fact it was introduced over-performing.
Unless you indulge in the fantasy fiction that AIM-260 is bigger and better than everyone else’s missile because “muh American supremacy complex”
Which is funny cause last I checked it was still a paper project. Although, the modified SM-6 could be funny. Shame its on a garbage 4.5 Gen platform.
Just because it has the funny 4 letters doesn’t mean its automatically better. EF’s mechanical radar outperformed the Rafale’s PESA radar by quite some margin.
And yes while you can make the point that it’s French tech, my point stands. PESA and AESA doesn’t automatically mean better in all metrics (just because you get the four funny letters, doesn’t mean its better)
Which says more about the French radar than anything else. I have seen nothing to suggest the EFs mech radar could outdo US AESAs, and certainly not the ones on the US’s ‘heavy’ fighters.
Affirmation without proof, denial without proof, or whatever the exact catch phrase was…
Does that kind of… thing awaits an answer ? Rafale’s AESA is still quite unknown, so the first affirmation can be disregarded directly, and the second part can basically be summarized as “french = bad” which sounds really dumb (and for any country mind you, not just france)
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Lmao not even close. Its set to surpass AMRAAM production before the end of 2027. To be at that point means it is well into trials.
A multi-staged ‘smart’ missile is better than anything else by a large margin. Being able to lob itself high and far with the first stage and then trigger the second when optimal for both range and terminal effectiveness is even more impressive than a ramjet sustainer
Let be serious AIM-9X are a little bit too much
Newer 9M like M8 are more reasonable
as for AMRAAM right now C-5 is maximum and both in case of better missile are introduces
except russia, everyone who purchases russian combat aircraft desperately want to replace the radar sets, happened especially with the chinese
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Neither the 9X nor C-5 is necessary right now though. 120A/B has outstanding performance, and the 9M is sufficient as a IRCCM missile. If anything, the AIM-95 could come as an alternative for better kinematic performance, at the cost of IRCCM performance and smokey motor.
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yeah russia is struggling right now, and they have been for a long time in micro electronics (quite central for a modern radar)
Well yes that why i said in case of newer missile are introduce US could have those
like if Russia get R-77-1 then other like US could get C-5
13 missiles ?
Are you yapping or do you have sources? The only official evaluation I could find comparing the Rafale’s PESA and Eurofighter’s mechanical radar was from a 2008 Swiss government evaluation.
In this evaluation, the Rafale’s PESA radar was considered as a “strong point” while they deemed Eurofighter’s sensors as weak overall. If you have any other sources to contribute that can clarify this matter, I’d appreciate it.
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Double pylons
Inshallah brother. I also believe that we should also add the F22 and F35 along with the aim9x and AIM-174. This can give the US a standing chance against soviet aircraft.
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Rafale and typhoon with meteor exceeds any non stealth US aircraft
What is considered as their counterparts?
This isn’t going to be anything exclusive to AIM-260 when MICA NG is also going to have the same technology and will be delivered in mid-to-late 2025, so around the same time as AIM-260. So as usual, the US will deliver a non-game changing missile that is on par with others.
None of those features makes up for ramjet sustainer being able to output more thrust while also allowing for more of the missile mass to be composed of fuel than conventional motors. At best, AIM-260 will have a superior seeker but there’s no confirmation that AIM-260 uses AESA seeker.
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