Wdym??
I think this part is playing the victim.
U.S. Air Branch has a generally good lineup below the top ranks.
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I mean, much more people play GRB than ARB.
Even if it is true
-It isn’t ‘nobody plays ARB’
-It doesn’t invalidate that the US has a generally good lineup for ARB.
For example, Britain Rank 7 is a literal minefield, and many minor nation’s post-ww2 era subsonic jet lineups are screwed as heck.
Even though russian bias is ass,
USA isn’t BAD.
It just failed to be #1.
Not being #1 out of 10 isn’t ‘bad’
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-It doesn’t invalidate that the US has a generally good lineup for ARB.
If we consider that the large majority of players play GRB, there isn’t really a point of being the META of ARB.
You need CAS capabilities, not air capabilities, in this game.
And the CAS capabilities, we all know who has it.
In your theory, if we push it to the end, we will reach
‘We need to remove naval and ARB because many players play GRB.’
That is a hot take.
No offence, you are throwing American Tech Tree’s good parts into the bin, just because you want to play victim.
Cherrypicking the samples.
In this game, you need different capabilities in different game modes.
Yes, about this part, I wonder why we Brits need to have gelded Brimstone while those soviets are having Kh38.
I hate it.
But It doesn’t mean that Americans/Brits are BAD.
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In your theory, if we push it to the end, we will reach
‘We need to remove naval and ARB because many players play GRB.’That is a hot take.
No, why ?
I’m not saying it’s not important to be the META of ARB, I’m saying that as there is an actual large majority of the player base playing GRB, it is more important to have more performant CAS, than more air capabilities for ARB.
I’m not ashamed to say America has actual good air capabilities, I’m not cherrypicking at all. I’m actually bothered by the fact to say Russia has the best air, because it’s not true. They have the best CAS. I’m just saying that in GRB, Russia shines more because of their good CAS.
Yes, about this part, I wonder why we Brits need to have gelded Brimstone while those soviets are having Kh38.
I hate it.
But It doesn’t mean that Americans/Brits are BAD.
It means there is a bias towards Russia. And that in comparaison, other nations are less competitive.
You said it yourself, Brits have gelded Brimstone or whatever, and Russia has W Kh38. Doesn’t seem right in terms of balance.
I just wonder why the heck you are invalidating every single point that the US may be META.
Just for playing victim? Or Spamming russian bias replys?
Are there solid statistics to prove your take? Or just your assumption.
Also, if we consider it is true just for arguing’s sake
It cannot be a reason to ignore American superiority in ARB.
So, you want GRB bias instead of Russian bias?
Every gamemode is important, and it is NOT MORE IMPORTANT to have a more performant CAS than more air capabilities for ARB in general.
You are thinking like that you are GRB main.
If we ignore the fact USA are generally being meta in ARB except the top ranks, then they will be meta forevermore unless powercreep comes up and crushes the former meta.
It also does not seem right in terms of balance.
No no no. You are cherry-picking. Maybe not intended.
But if you exclude non-GRB for the balancing decision, it will eventually be cherry-picking the points.
Yes, Russia probably has better cas than us in the top rank GRB
But it doesn’t mean we are less competitive. We still can ruin Lavochkin’s day with Spittie.
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Spoiler: it’s actually America if you look outside of top tier.
Do you have anything to back this claim up? GRB is probably more popular, but that doesn’t mean air RB is niche.
It matters if you play air RB (which a large portion of the player base does).
I just wonder why the heck you are invalidating every single point that the US may be META.
Just for playing victim? Or Spamming russian bias replys?
Because they’re just not the META in GRB ??
Maybe in ARB, but again, not the META either in terms of CAS capabilities.
It cannot be a reason to ignore American superiority in ARB.
Who said that ? I’m just talking about the CAS capabilities here, not the air capabilities.
So, you want GRB bias instead of Russian bias?
Every gamemode is important, and it is NOT MORE IMPORTANT to have a more performant CAS than more air capabilities for ARB in general.
You are thinking like that you are GRB main.If we ignore the fact USA are generally being meta in ARB except the top ranks, then they will be meta forevermore unless powercreep comes up and crushes the former meta.
It also does not seem right in terms of balance.
Because people mainly play WT for GRB, not ARB. It’s very unlikely a dude only plays ARB for 1500 hours straight.
Plus, you just said yourself that the US weren’t the META at top tier ARB ? So I’m guessing Russia is also the META, even at top tier ARB ?
So can we say they also have the bias there ? Unless it’s the french or other european that have the META at top tier ARB.
No no no. You are cherry-picking. Maybe not intended.
But if you exclude non-GRB for the balancing decision, it will eventually be cherry-picking the points.
I never had that kind of conversation before.
For me, WT is mainly GRB. Because GRB = ground + heli + jets + CAS. That’s why people rather play GRB than ARB solely.
Of course I’m always talking about GRB. I don’t even believe russian mains care about having the META in ARB tbh lol.
Yes, Russia probably has better cas than us in the top rank GRB
But it doesn’t mean we are less competitive.
If they have better CAS, then we’re less competitive in terms of CAS… it’s the definition of being + or - competitive
Spoiler: it’s actually America if you look outside of top tier.
But people want to play top top tier. They grind years in order to play top top tier. All the cool new mecanisms and shiny stuff are at top top tier.
Pretty sure majority of player base rather player top top tier than anything else.
Plus there is the lore of the current wars going on. Is America better than Russia today ? Is it well represented in the game ? Or not ? Lots of people play top top tier to play their own country’s current army.
Do you have anything to back this claim up? GRB is probably more popular, but that doesn’t mean air RB is niche.
As I said in the other thread, I just meant GRB is way more popular than ARB.
All the propaganda towards a certain nation is made in and for GRB, btw. They don’t really seem to care about ARB.
“What I meant was CAS!”
Seems you are trying to make the frontline shorter and smaller.
Okay, if you say so.
Just saying
You are the one who mentioned ARB either.
AFAIK, after the end of the era of F-15E, Frenches are having META on top ranks. It seems Rafales are having a similar level of infamy as Kh38s.
The problem is, you speak like you’re generalising your GRB experience as the whole gameplay experience of War Thunder.
It is fine to talk USA isn’t meta in GRB.
But it isn’t fine when you exaggerate it as the USA isn’t META and bad in this game.
Because
GRB = War Thunder,
War Thunder ≠ GRB.
Damn, I am terribly sorry that I am one of the unlike dude. /j
War Thunder was originally begun as an air game, so there is probably a playerbase who is more on ARB.
I may need to say sorry about the highly aggressive tone, but I reckon we wouldn’t argue at all if we both chose our words wisely.
And lastly…
Why are we arguing about the USA being meta in GRB and ARB or not
When
-This discussion is originally about Balance of Event mode.
-And discussing abouts events in seperrate topic which is outside of the event topic is an inappropriate duplicate.
-So there is a chance of the mod closing this topic at any moment, and our whole discussion is off-topic-ish.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
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surely this includes GRB
surely this event has GRB elements and we have playable tanks in it, surelyyyyyyyyy
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Do tags take over the main title of the thread though ?
Also, why are you still talking to me while disrespecting me in the first place ?
i never disrespected you, i just said to stop bringing random topics to a AIR RELATED THREAD
the main title has “(Nuclear Thunder)” written in it, last time i checked the event is completely unrelated to GRB, it doesnt have Kh-38MT, nor LMURS nor BMPT or PANTSIR
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well in game the airframe is so much worse than its real life counterpart
This mode is totally Russian Bias, US vehicle is way worst than the Soviet vehicle
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Yes.
This discussion is supposed to be held in the official thread. Please head there instead of creating additional posts:
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