Also how many battles did u do on the f14iraf?
I saw u did 36 which means u berly spaded it
Not sure if it you but if its u try to play 100 games with it and then come back
U will see how broken is this
Am I the only one who thinks the F-14 IRIAF is still significantly overperforming at its current BR?
I dont need 100 games in it to tell you about it.
ive got almost all the top modifications for it
youre here crying that you cant notch an easy dodged missile in one of the best 12.0 platforms in the game son not me.
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Huh?
Aim7f is like aim 7m with worse seeker it has like 15 sec of burn time if not more and its long range missile
The aim7e2 are short range df missile can berly go over 10 km
It turns out that u do need cuz u holding a jem thinking its a rock
Go full mods 40 min fuel and bvr with fackours
Make sure they lock on target and u will have min 2 kills per match if u are not complete ass at the game
you cant read can you.
Read what i said. IM not using them for BVR engagements, i have the aim54 or fakours for that. the aim 7 F has 75 second burn time while aim 7 - 2 is 40 seconds both of which are absolutely fine bar for more than 10km shots.
It can pass 10km easily. if used right.
Are you really that stupid??
im not even kidding here, I am not saying the IRIAF is bad??
IVE BEEN SAYING THEY ARE BOTH WORTH 12.7 THAT MEANS ITS GOOD.
I dont need 40 mins of fuel thats for absolute troglodytes who just leave the afterburner on.
I know how to launch a BVR missile son ive got nearly twice the kills in the F14 as you do.
edit : enough of this nonsense, either you cannot read and dont understand what im saying, OR youre simply just trolling.
The IRIAF cannot go to 13.0 while 14.0 is still gen 4.5 jets.
You can easily dodge fakour 90s, and most other missiles in the mirage F1 200 if you use it right
Ive at no point said the F14 IRIAF is bad. But it is not some overpower god slayer of a jet.
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With bvr?
Cuz if u do bvr with aim 54 u should dominate with fackours
They are not the same at all f14iraf is much much better if i could 1v1 u i would and u would see how stupid this thing is
And you know what even if its just me why so many ppl saying its ruining 12.7?
Why so many ppl hate this plane so much?
what on gods earth are you on about xD the Aim54 is only for BVR mate wouldnt use it any other way would you.
Its literally an identical platform bar different long range missiles its not much better at all. its marginally better due to the fakours capabilities.
also at no point have i said i cant BVR with the fakour 90s i just dont like the gameplay loop.
Because idiots dont know how to simply avoid the missiles, most people believe its balanced where it is right now, because it cannot move up with the current 14.0s that we have.
i find it far more unfair that the gripen, and f16s are all 13.0 and 12.7 or what about he F4F ICE?
youre crying about the fking F14 IRIAF mate when there are jets with better radars and missiles at the same 13.0 which can and do stomp 12.0
EDIT: Out of 10 matches, ive had 2 downtiers into 12.0, the rest? have been 13.7 games, thats an F14A IRIAF with its amazing fakour 90s VS F15C MSIPs with Aim120s, F16s, J11s, gripens etc etc all with far, far better missiles, and even better radars.
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I think both of you need to chill down pal
Well, having a doomed RWR when you need to deal with ARH or SARH with PD radar seems very annoying even though that isn’t impossible.
I bought a Mirage F1C(Tech Tree version) of mine before but I never flew with them because the old French-made Mirage Detecteur RWR was quite disappointing when I flew with Mirage IIIC(Israel)
I think there is no meaning in playing F1C if there are modernized Mirage F1CT on the same BR.
(Well, having two Magic 1 on F1C and facing F-15A/16A seems diabolical for the stock grind. it may also affect that decision)
Also, I think the Mirage F1C with Super 530F is quite outdated for BVR. in the current meta.
It has no PD radar, and Missile was ass when I was grinding Mirage 2000CS-4(Event version of Mirage 2000C). literally nobody but ‘noob who can’t see RWR’ or ‘chaff-less stock guys’ gets hit of it. (2000C has way better radar than F1C, still 530F was awful)
At least, Premium version F1C-200 has a better reward modifier.
Anyway, @noamax.
Craving for buff on normie F-14A to 12.3 while you want to go BVR with your F1C seems to diabolical take, and contradicted.
They will stab your plane with nor AIM-7F or AIM-54A
and will dominating the match all over again :/
That simply not true aim 7f has 15 sec and aim 7e2 has like 3 sec but thx for showing how u dont know nothing
Next br changes u will see the f14iraf will up in br so dont be suprised
Yes and thos are broken
Yes cuz they are 13.0 the dont see 12.0 so much
More fair then going against 3d gen with the best bvr missile in game
Im chill mate, the RWR on the F1 200 and ofc the F1C is not great no, but you still get notified when a radar is locked onto you, you also get the general direction of it. The F1 200 is still barely usuable at 13.0 as you say the F15A, 16A and also the F16 AJ is 12.7.
on top of this, the gripen is as well 13.0 so its not as if the mirage is facing off just against the F14 IRIAF which compared to those platforms is a massively easier fight.
Its been outdated for BVR for a long time unfortunately yeah, as was stated before it can occassionally land and get kills to folks. But in the 12.0 area the mirage F1 is relying on its IR missiles and nice retention to do well.
Its a properly nice plane to be fair , ive flown a good amount of 12.0s and in that area jets and hte F1 200 is nice, not perfect sure.
has MTI though which isnt bad either works similarly to PD.
Which should be 12.7 btw the things an absolute animal of a plane. fun as hell for grinding events.
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Quite out of the original thread though
I agree that M2CS4 should be 12.7 but erm…
I think this might be greedy but, It would be perfect if CS-4 also receives that chaff dispenser of CS-5. XD
Extra CM is usually right. right?
apologies was on a fair few topics comparing things. e.g the aim 7-2 is the same as the skyflash. however their guidance times are vary, the difference is the aim7 F has a 4 second initial booster at max thrust then has a sustained booster of 11 seconds which allows it to travel further, the aim7-2 has a 3 second booster as far as i can see with a bit more oomph but no sustained booster, meaning for the purpose of the missiles use as a closer range radar missile the Aim7-2 and F are functionally identical.
Providing they put the eurofigher typhoon. rafale, and F15E / I up to 14.3 and all the other 13.7s up to 14.0 then sure it could go there.
however i doubt it, the F14 IRIAF is also used by people playing like bots so it tends to bring its score down.
They do see 12.0 a lot mate, i see 12.0 in 13.0s more than i do with my 12.7s.
The best BVR missile in the game? that is just a lie, the best BVR missile in game right now is the AIM120, if launched from say, the EF2000 or F15E no fakour will ever touch its performance.
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agreed there. always found it weird to have 36
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He just said this
“More fair then going against 3d gen with the best bvr missile in game” lad thinsk the fakour 90s are the best BVR missiles in game.
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They are
U want stats?
They literally are not the best
they may be the longest range but an EF2000 at 10k meters alt is going to hit an F14 with an aim120 before the F14 is even anywhere near high enough to fire a missile back to BVR
youre just being silly now man im sorry.
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Nonsense.
‘He won’t come to a reasonable conclusion’?
you must’ve joking. right?
Meanwhile, i played some rounds in M2K …
I prefer the RWR of MF.1 . And i understood why most players with good RWRs die. there is a thing…“too much information” . “too detailed” .
With MF.1 for example i’ve died once with F90 and that’s when i was distracted with my dog.
With M2K , i’ve already died trice.
And that’s not F-14 being OP or the “skillz of the pilotz” … mostly me fighting my RWR . Also missile warning . I hate it.