Am i bad or just horrible?

Sooo, I have 2700 hours, 3500 arcade and 1500 realistic battles, and at least 2000 of them with premium veichule, but i still didnt got top tier, like at the ussr i have ( considering each of the veichules lines like bomber,fighter, heavy tank, light tank etc ) the SU 27SM MIG 23 YAK 15 IL 28 and TU 4, in ground i have the T 55AMD T 10M BMP 2 2S1 and BTR ZD, while in other nations i have the german tiger and panther line, sherman 76 line in the us and only, and now i discovered that people grind an entire tech tree in 500 hours, what can i do now?

Hey guys, so after reading some of these coments i got into a first conclusion: i am at the same time good, because i have fun playing, and bad, because my stats show that i am very bad at the game, also, all the blogs and videos i watched about economy a long time ago are or outdated or i didnt understood them, also, i will start grinding or britain, sweden, or france to relearn how to play realistic, lastly, i normally get many kills per match ( incridable i started after the start of 2025 , even tough i went from playing all week to just at the weekends cuz of studing and working ) at ground i think its about 4-5 kills a game and in air its 2-3 in the mig 21 it is about ±10 after i played it for a year and mastered it, but even tough i have these stats i never tought that the amount of deaths would make my rewards worse, i only new that surviving more time in air gives you a bigger reward. This aint a final veridict but thanks everyone for the support and most importantly for the critics!

dont even care about the grind
who even cares
just play stuff you like

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Those people are usually very good at the game, using premium time+premium vehicles, and probably cheesing it to some degree. They shouldn’t be taken as the baseline for quick grinding.

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2700 hours and only 4.5k battles? Are you spending most of your time in custom battles?

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Easier said than done at this point, gaijin keep ruining the actual gameplay (mainly in ground)

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Only really works for minor trees though, Japan ground took me approx 3-4 days of grinding, Israel was only 4 provided they are much shorter and content sparse (especially up at higher ranks) allowing for rapid researching and low chance of burning out.

Major trees are far more taxing to grind efficiently imo, might just be preference though since i tend to stick to a single prem vehicle until i reach my desired lineup for that prem.

Another great way to enjoy the grind is to buy a cheap rank 6, play a favourable matchmaker and grind up until you find a rank 7 you enjoy (eg J-7E, TKX(P), Strv121…) and talisman it, allowing you to spade it + grind up to top tier, as opposed to suffering in a rank 7/8 prem thats fighting top tiers consistently

This. I researched the Maus with the Jagdpanzer IV. Just play what you like. If you really want to get to one or more high tier modern vehicles, sitting down to play that nation more often is still the available option (including premium).

I don’t really see a problem here.

The USSR has a crap load of vehicles to go through in order to reach top tier.

For example, you can reach jet era in Swedish TT in about a week if you have premium time and have played a game before or 2-3 weeks if you really haven’t. The reason being the amount of vehicles you need to go through in the line of research and the amount of vehicles necessary to proceed to the next rank.

There might be an issue with the gamemode tho. From my experience, arcade battles give substantially less rewards (SL and especially RP) unless you do 7+ kills per match and win the said game. Realistic battles is the place to grind vehicles (ground, air, even naval) as they give you much more rewards per match when compared to arcade ones. I didn’t like realistic at first, but if you get a grasp of it, the grind itself becomes much more easier. People say grinding attackers/bombers in air simulator battles is more efficient than in realistic/arcade, yet I have never tried it myself because I am a console player.

Overall, it depends on what’s your core objectif. If you aim for some vehicle at top tier, you shall do realistic/sim battles because arcade is not rewarding. If you want to have fun (a notion unknown and forbidden to War Thunder) just play whatever you want and wherever you want, but rewards won’t always be as rewarding as they could be.

You have 466 hours in battle, far less than 2.7K you claim. It makes a lot more sense when you consider that.

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I disagree, I have 400 hours, im a pretty average player, and I have top tier for britain in both air and ground, rn grinding for black night, and I’ve never had any premiums to help grind.

466 is plenty for top tier btw

I mean 2.7k is about half my total playtime, and yet i have top tier air, ground or both in every nation besides france or america, so yeah i think he’s misinterpreted his stats

For 1 nation (air + ground) sure, although ideally you’d want to cut that down to 100 hours per tree (with a prem)

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you may need to start changing your playstyle

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Now that the initial title question is settled, what can you do?

The first thing that helps is to really understand the working of the economy. If you don’t understand the economy, you don’t even have a guide as to what may be beneficial to your behavior and what surely isn’t.

Good thing is: It is easier to learn the economy than to learn to play well.

I doubt economy is the issue here, i’d start learning the game mechanics first.

We are past the “first”, the player already has developed his own ideas about how to play, with the obvious results.

Playing more economical makes immediate sense and will actually lead to some very elementary game concepts. It may well be that the current play style results from a wrong understanding of the economy. Wouldn’t be the first person who actually accomplished the opposite of what he intended but never noticed.

I doubt he is past the “first”, guy clearly doesnt understand the game, he needs to learn how everything works, including the economics, he should go to lower BR’s and play before moving onto newer tiers.

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Unfortunately, this involves to “unlearn”, which is often harder. Because he has already “learned” stuff.

dont think he has any other option, better to go to lower tiers, play like a few hundred games and gradually increase ranks as he learns.