Late variant from WTD 61:
Engine:
SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C20
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Weapons:
CVR-7 rockets
CVR-7 rockets trialled
SMAT ATGM
SMAT ATGM
VBW MBB
Short range stand off missile (SR-SOM)
Aim-9L
BAP 100
BAT 120
Other armament information
Other changes
Sources
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@Godvana feel like helping?
got some interesting stuff here
i think @someweirdname was an alpha jet enthusiast with lots of info as well, he visited the dornier mueseum thingy
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Well I’d be happy to have him.
I got enough info about tested weapons to warrant a new aircraft lol.
You’ve covered all the bases I think xD
I will say that this thing:
![image](https://forum-en-cdn.warthunder.com/original/3X/b/7/b7207b66fdaa5500ea921497ead8973fabba28c3.jpeg)
Goes into the back seat and includes a RWR, the same one as found on the F-104S.ASA (EL-70/EL-73)
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These are actually the antennas for the RWR
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If there are two antennas… does that mean the pilot may have had a way to differentiate between radar from above and radar from below?
Because last i read it was an audio only RWR…
Nope, it’s just if either of them picked up a radar signal it would beep. The German F-104Gs also had a light in the cockpit that would flash.
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In game theyre given a full RWR though iirc…
Yeah, that’s a historical error, its been reported.
:crying face emoji:
So i lose my directional RWR on the widow maker???
Yep, the F-104G (German and Italian) and F-104S should all have the same RWR as the F-104S.ASA.
The Japanese F-104Js have their own RWR but I don’t know much about it.
The Chinese F-104G should have no RWR.
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Although I will say that the F-104Gs should also have EEGS and an IRST system (you can see it in front of the cockpit). The German one should also have AIM-9Ls.
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EEGS and IRST i want but i can live without 9Ls cuz br issues…
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Eh, I would take 9Ls in exchange for it going to 11.0. The German F-104Gs should also have way more CAS options, and AS.34s.
![F-104G AS.34 3](https://forum-en-cdn.warthunder.com/original/3X/6/2/6270bdbfa1ebffc93c9e65b4896a10ed4e0cc00e.jpeg)
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Ok, now u got me hooked…
How about suggesting an F-104G late?
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Also, was it AS.34 or AS.30?
EDIT:
oh yeah, i remember they could also take the kormorans…
It might make more sense to make a suggestion for an early version (as introduced to service)
These would have no flares, no RWR, AIM-9Bs, worse air-to-ground options, and a weaker engine. Would probably be 9.7.
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found this although not exactly a manual level source:
(dont mind the ES suffix, it is talking about the F-104G)
and another article kind of giving the 104 legendary status lol:
Yeah I have seen it before ^^
916-starfighter.de is a really great site.
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i wonder if the germans ever had this?