All F-5 fighter overperform remarkably and needs to be nerfed

  1. Not true. 2. Doesn’t mean I only play meta. I’ve spaded the entire french and italian air trees. I’m sure you think those trees are filled with meta planes.

Works the exact same in game and needs to be notched. So does SRC btw because the R-24 is a CW missile.

Notch it buddy

Vast simplification of what i’ve actually said

No, you aren’t.

I obviously know all this, especially since I know more than you.

Different metas, different times, different skill of my own. Terrible argument to try to use single jets at a time.

You can’t. You’d get stomped in any jet you try to do this in. Feel free to setup a time when you want to be rolled over by us both playing the same jet over the same period of time in air RB

Not true. 2. Doesn’t mean I only play meta. I’ve spaded the entire french and italian air trees. I’m sure you think those trees are filled with meta planes.

Definitely true, the F-4E has been the best before the mig29’s addition and once again one of the best after it stopped seeing it. The Su27 when added was the best jet in game for air RB because it could carry six R27ER’s and four R73s at the same br as the MiG29 itself with just two R27R’s and four R60M’s and no F-15 to counter the missile spam. The Phantom FG1was the best phantom for air RB before the EJ Kai was added as it has the highest thrust while carrying AIM9G’s and skyflash DF. The CL13B Mk6 has been the best 9.0 in game and was even goated back then when I played it at 9.7 andf 9.3. The Hunter FGA9 was one of the strongest jets ever before the MiG19 and the T-2 were lowered from 10.0 to 9.3 Oh, you also spam the KAmov 50.

Remember when I called you a liar yesterday? Well, this is you lying again right after.

I’ve spaded the entire french and italian air trees. I’m sure you think those trees are filled with meta planes.

And yet the italian and french planes you play the most are also only the meta vehicles. “Italian” planes such as the Gripen and the MiG29 as well as the heavily overtiered French Rafale and the MICA equipped Mirages which have been dominating air RB from the day they were added to the first SU30SM iteration which countered MICANCER with their own stuff that while better was mounted on an airframe that didn’t have the performance to make em work as well.

I don’t “think” that these trees are filled with meta planes, “France Suffer” and “Shitaly” were just silly reddit memes. While many of the planes on these trees are average, there are definitely other planes that are virtue of meta. RE2005 is a Spitfire LF Mk9 with a nose gun which negates the only weakness the spitfire had. G91s are well armed all purpose fighters with good instantaneous turn. F-104S ASA was the best thing in the game for some time when it could mount both the vulcan as well as the aspides when they could pull 30g’s instead of 20g’s.

Vast simplification of what i’ve actually said

Implying that the F-5s are undertiered is implying they’re OP. No, they’re not OverPowered, no, they’re not undertiered. No, they’re not even close to meta.

No, you aren’t.

This can be taken philosophically because… I can’t be better than you at those planes if you straight up don’t play them. You don’t play the F-5A, you don’t play the N1K, you don’t play the sea fury, you don’t play the CA27, you don’t play the J7W1, you don’t play the Ki83, you don’t play the I225. Waait a second, I did complain about the F-5E, you’re 2KD in it while i’m 3.9KD in it with more matches than you.

I obviously know all this, especially since I know more than you.

Another lie and, in this case, just like your claim that you don’t play meta, is in bad faith.

Do you know more than me? Nearly everything you said is either wrong, or a lie, or just ragebait. You get boasty saying you want to test stuff out but actively forget about it. I challenge you to 1v1’s to prove my points and you reject the chance to humble me down with your skill and your knowledge.

Different metas, different times, different skill of my own. Terrible argument to try to use single jets at a time.

Different metas? Buddy, there’s only ONE meta by virtue of logic. If you actually knew so much more than me you’d understand that making a slow gunfighter specialized in the ratefight while having the lowest amount of CM’s and missiles at the BR become relevant in a game mode where logic applied would scream "STAY FAST, USE MISSILES and DON’T LOSE TIME MANEUVERING, SPAM CM’s" then YOU are part of the problem why F-5 is regarded as OP and undertiered. The definition of meta itself doesn’t even let anything else be meta too, there’s only ONE meta and that’s why it’s called META, cause it means both what’s the game itself as well as MOST EFFECTIVE TACTIC APPLICABLE. It’s a superlative, there’s no room for others.

You can’t. You’d get stomped in any jet you try to do this in. Feel free to setup a time when you want to be rolled over by us both playing the same jet over the same period of time in air RB

Once again, you don’t even play the planes I call bad. Also, my 3kd+ has been harnessed without stealing kills, third partying or ratting up.

Quite ironic coming from a guy who didn’t even know AIM-7E2s can be notched.

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Quite ironic coming from a guy who didn’t even know AIM-7E2s can be notched.

It is funny cause I never claimed aim7e2’s can’t be notched. I said that the mig23 in MTI mode can’t be notched. Seems like you are Normandy Corsair’s Brother in Behavior.

Hey rico, 2000 games stock grinding two trees filled with terrible planes is more than me enjoying the F-4E over the half decade+ its been in game for 500 games

That’s great. I didn’t play it when it was new. I’ve only played it in the Fox3 meta. Womp Womp

And I didn’t play it then, see the trend here?

Not agreed upon, it is strong sure, I’ve never played it when it was top tier or anywhere close to top tier.

And I didn’t play it then, lmao.

Long after it was not overpowered lmao

Pathetic misrepresentation. Especially when you routinely (majority of the time) say simply wrong things.

Lmao, because they take the most games to spade being rank 8-9 jets and I use the Rafale in my 12.7 french lineup in GRB. You have no idea how statistics actually work.

CALLING THIS META LOL

LOL THINKING THE RE2005 IS BETTER THAN A SPITFIRE WHEN ITS FLIGHT MODEL IS DIRECTLY EQUIVALENT TO 4.3 SPITFIRES BUT ITS 6.3! YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP

Far worse actually

G.91s are straight up worse versions of the MiG-15s and F-86s that exist 0.3br below any given G.91R

LOL it was “ok” not good, “ok” for a very short period of time and then it was useless since then, and I’ve only played it when it was useless lmao

I have spaded every N1K in game. LMAO

Spaded the sea fury too, see it in the french tree?

Spaded every japanese prop in the tech tree, LMAO

Spaded every japanese prop in the tech tree LMAO

Spaded every russian prop in the tech tree, seeing a trend here? Your brain working yet?

Yep.

Nope. Right 99% of the time with you.

Rico finds out that time exists and that metas change, coming soon!

See this comment I just wrote that says I spaded 99% of what you claim I don’t play

Lmao we just lying

Which is also wrong lmao

Crazy spading all these planes without ever playing a game in them somehow

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Last I checked these two statements are mutually exclusive.

Which it can be notched? It’s a CW missile. All CW missiles can be notched. Where is this delusion that MTI mode = deadly guaranteed kill coming from?

I mean if he and I are similar in that we both point out that you’re wrong? Then sure.

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hes still going?

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You played less than 10 battles in these planes while I played 150 or more. That thing you did is not “playing” these planes, and i am still better than you on them. Spading them with golden eagles while playing less matches than fingers have two hands is a laughable sample size.

doesn’t make me be in the wrong. If you die to F-5s on mig23s you still die to zeroes on corsairs.

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Yes the MTI radar can’t be notched, but it can be chaffed in any aspect.

The at 11.3 R-23R is not very manoeuvrable like the R-24R at 11.7, and can be reasonably avoided by chaffing and running away from the radar illuminator zone that was previously chaffed to break lock (similar to R-24R but that one is a bit harder because it’s faster + IOG)

AIM-7E2 is nearly unavoidable kinematically after the buffs if multipath is not accessible in that moment. The viggen has PD all aspect radar with a pair of them, its the most dangerous weapon at 11.3 but the jet has many limitations that can be exploited.

Regarding the actual the topic…

My opinion on the F-5’s situation is that they are mid across the board from 10.7 to 11.3 and even the 13.0 one, except the premium NF-5A, which is a sidegrade or upgrade of the F-5E at a lower BR

So what? It’s a defeatable radar, and a defeatable missile.

Guy who thinks Aim-7E2s are undefeatable btw

The 11.0 ones are among the best dogfighting F-5s, while the 11.3 one has the best br-for-br set of missiles. P3s are the longest range all aspect missile you get at that BR.

A slight downgrade (it has less thrust) but it is better than every 10.7 F-5.

But easily avoidable by anything that can’t dogfight it

That would be the F-4E imho

Not a unique issue to that F-5, tbf.

I meant in the context of F-5s, the 11.3 F-5 FCU has the best missile set for its br. 4 all aspects of which 2 are the longest range non-irccm is great when you have F1Cs with only 9Js at the same br.

And technically, best is actually kurnass (better IRs than F-4E)

It is hell on earth dealing with F-5s that have that damned missile. a godly STR fighter that can also missile joust when nothing else can do both is disgusting

To start: Those that resort to statshaming admit defeat.

Normandy has 18 simulator battles in the N1Ks alone, with 31 respawns x 916 seconds = 473minutes 16 seconds, 7 hours 53 minutes 16 seconds estimated based on their average sim lifespan.
J7W1 is 8 matches, 15 respawns for a playtime of ~4 hours.
Ki-83 is 7 matches with 20 respawns… >5 hours.
Sea Fury is 3 matches with 10 respawns… >2.5 hours.

Boeing, you completely failed your personal attack on @Normandy_Corsair

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