XDDD i bet he bring 12 smokes
I shot rack 3 (which was full)
Also, i think all shells in this game are explosive when they are in an ammorack, regardless of its type.
edit; wrong tank
normal fuel tank like fuel tank with no seperate steel or armor should always kill crews
Theres a certain thickness that can resist fuel explosion(20mm-40mm)
yeah but then gaijin janky game mechanics said otherwise
yup
So? U did not hit the ammo, only the empty part of the autoloader cause u aimed too low. Fuel tank doesn’t just explode, they don’t IRL, so this is not realistic in WT anyway, nvm it was likely an ignition rather than explosion so no point talking about explosion or crew survival, that is purely visual effects.
- Little spall, nearly any tank would take at least two if not up to 9 penned shots from my experience. 2. He didn’t have many ammo, so it was mainly just the empty auto loader.
That is realistic bro, don’t you know american engineering is superior?
~USA mains
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Certainly is superior
for a while*
You’re comparing a V2 and a V3. The V3 has thicker cheeks with beefier angles.
This is a terrible and wrong example.
doesnt the top still have the armor thickness from SEPv2
the blocks are there to simulate the weight of the v3 but the profile should still be from the v2
Sepv3 has a new armor package called NGAP (Next Generation Armor Package), both in the hull and turret. As seen in the image, sepv3s turret cheeks are now extended more to fit the new armor package in. The weights seen on sepv2 are to simulate the weight for the new armor.
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I know, but I believe the abrams in the image does not have this, as it has the ballast plates that where used to simulate the weight of the new armor in testing before the armor was fitted to the tank, as such its armor profile would still be the same as earlier abrams variants
I mean yes, you are correct because in the image its a sepv2, not sepv,3 so it would still have the same armor since it’s a sepv2.
yeah and the person I was replying to was claiming that it was v3 so not relevant despite being v2 or at least having v2 armor
Well, he is wrong and you are right. I thought you were implying that Sepv3 has the same armor as sepv2, my bad.
This is incorrect. My friend works with the SEPv3 and was the one to show me the difference in turret shape.
The SEPv3 is much bulkier turret-wise than the SEPv2, which leads to the turret ring being hidden more than in previous models.
congrats, its actually pretty rare seeing someone back up info with sources and its nice to see that even once in a while, also yeah it does seem a lot bulkier, any data regarding on how much thickness does it add?
Currently there are no open sources, although I suspect around 200 - 300 for hull. Turret wise IDK what is even the point, not like the ABRAMs turret can’t tank most ATGMs anyway and there is also the trophy. Also don’t know quite how heavy they are.
Unfortunately, there are no values out there, at least unclassified ones regarding how much armor it offers. What I did find was this little bit of info regarding what they were aiming for when developing the armor, as seen in the image. They mention realistic and emerging threats. I personally believe things like the t14 and other high pen threats were definitely on the drawing board when they developed the armor.
There is also someone who made an estimate of what the turret armor could offer based on weight increases over the years with different versions of the Abrams. https://forum.warthunder.com/t/m1a2-sep-v3/80241/303
I do enjoy seeing people wanting the SEP V3 so much when they forget it weighs 74 tons… It would be worse than the SEP V2 (Not to say that thing is bad)
I would be fine with that weight if Gaijin gave the improved armor and made it actually a worthwhile upgrade (you know they take some creative liberties when implementing top tier MBTs).
Problem with the SEPv2 is that it increases weight and offers no worthwhile upgrade over the SEPv1 in WT.
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