Aircraft weights in War Thunder

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Currently there is no way to report incorrect mass of aircraft, their engines, fuels, oils, or max payloads. Only certain information is displayed in the game, and reporting based on datamine information is disallowed.

Let’s use the aircraft I’m currently looking into as an example;

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This is the information we can see in the statcard for the Brigand B.1, it shows some specific data about the aircraft and its performance.

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In X-ray view, hovering over individual components such as the engines, fuel tanks, or armament will give you further information. If it’s visible to the player in game, it can be used for a bug report.

Now let’s look at some problems;
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Line 1923 Takeoff appears to be the maximum take-off weight for the aircraft, which is not visible in game but is very important as it affects the aircraft’s maximum bomb payload. Note that Takeoff mass for the Brigand B.1 is set as 17690 kg.

Three max take-off weights are shown in the Brigand’s Pilot’s Notes. In metric, they equate to;

  1. Overload - 40,000 lb (18143.7 kg)
  2. Normal - 39,000 lb (17690.1 kg) < the figure being used, according to the game code
  3. Landing - 35,000 lb (15875.7 kg)

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So the aircraft is currently using its Normal (all permitted forms of flying) max take-off weight, resulting in a lower limit for suspended armaments.

Many aircraft in the game use Overload weights, it often depends on when the aircraft was introduced to the game or what documentation is available, or how test standards were applied. How can this be reported?

It can’t. Aircraft weight, fuel, oil, etc. are not displayed in game and any bug report trying to change them will be dismissed, as datamine information is not permitted to be used in bug reporting.

We shouldn’t be resistant to change. The UI changes in Ninth Wave have been a little different to what we were used to, but I think they will be found to be positive eventually. Likewise more visible information, which we are subject to, will in my opinion help improve the accuracy of the game experience.

Can we please have the following figures (which are present in the game code) displayed in game?;

  • Empty weight
  • Max fuel weight
  • Oil weight
  • Takeoff weight
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They said they’d “Give us new tools”, like, 6+ months ago

I’m still waiting on this is report the F-86K and other’s weights,

maximum Fuel capacity will also be extremely useful to see, as that is wrong too, often, luckily i shoehorned my Eurofighter report in just before they banned Localhost for good

Thrust curves will also be very useful, as the single engine thrust value is misleading, as some aircraft have very poor low speed thrust and some others excellent,

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I saw your bug reports. From my pov you should try to find a Brigand captured by a foreign country and recommend a premium version for the USSR tree. After implementation in the USSR tree everything goes…

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Yeah a simple in-game graphical representation of performance figures would be great, and would help the player understand their aircraft.

Fuel is a big one, though on Brigand B.1 is incorrect only by 1 kg (likely due to rounding);
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From calculations I’ve done on a number of aircraft, Gaijin appears to use 0.72 kg / litre for aviation fuel.

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Yeah I guess I should have suggested the Pakistani Brigand B.1 first, at least that would get REDFOR backing.

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