The current Aim-9L ranges are correct. Thats kinda the issue.
Aim-9Ms =/= Aim-9L lock ranges. They match the RAFs modified AIm-9Ls which were “dechirped”
Flame's Explanation from the old forums
Over in the Tornado thread I’ve alluded a couple of times to a previously unknown British modification to the AIM-9L. Now that I’ve got a bit of time I thought I’d write a proper explanation for what it was.
As a bit of background: the AIM-9L seeker produces an acquisition audio tone whenever an IR source irradiates the detector cell. The pilot can then fire the missile in boresight mode (where the missile will just fire and try to lock onto whatever is in front of it), or press a button which will cause the seeker to attempt to the lock onto the the target and then uncage before launch (like we have in game), the latter being the normal mode of operation. In the case of the Tornado F.3 the button the pilot pressed to lock the seeker on was known as the “Target Acquisition Enable” (TAE) button.
The absolute minimum IR intensity the AIM-9L can detect is 15pw/cm -2 , but it needs about 35 pw/cm -2 in order to track a target reliably. It seems that when the AIM-9L was in development the Americans were concerned that the pilot couldn’t easily tell from the audio tone what the IR intensity of the target was; so the pilot may end up firing the missile without a strong enough return for it to track properly. They therefore implemented the “chirp” system into the missile (so called because it made the missile make a chirping sound when locked on). Basically (I’m simplifying a little) when the pilot attempted to lock the missile onto the target before launch the seeker would be repeatedly driven off-centre from the target, meaning that the target needed to have an IR intensity of about 70 cm/pw -2 before the missile could successfully lock on it, as the seeker wouldn’t be looking straight at the target. This would ensure that if the seeker had managed to obtained a lock it would easily be able to track the target after launch (because the IR intensity required for lock was much higher than that required for tracking).
The British decided that the chirp system “constitutes a very conservative confidence factor”, and that it wasn’t even needed because the pilot could use the sidewinder seeker symbol on the aircraft’s HUD to determine if the missile was tracking properly before launch. They therefore set about developing a way to remove the chirp system from the AIM-9L so that they could lock and fire it at greater range.
This is where the Tornado F.3 STF 113 de-chirping modification comes in (a proper British bodge job). They worked out that by modifying the wiring inside the LAU-7 missile launcher they could trick the AIM-9L seeker into thinking that the missile had already been launched (even though it was still attached to the aircraft) meaning the seeker could be made to lock-on to targets without the chirp system coming into play (as chirp was disabled as soon as the trigger was pulled). This modification to the launchers enabled the Tornado F.3 to lock onto targets with the AIM-9L at much greater ranges than other AIM-9L equipped aircraft could. According to the Tornado F.3 tactics manual the lock on range of the AIM-9L was essentially doubled under some conditions (which makes some sense as it now only needed half of the IR intensity it previously did in order to lock on).
I’m aware that this sounds like bit of a wild story, so here is the proof to back it up.
So 9Ls arent in question, although pretty much all British aircraft with 9Ls should have greater lock ranges. The Aim-9M is wrong. Flame used a doc that compared Dechriped Aim-9Ls and Aim-9Ms to get the lock ranges. The RAF found there was little difference between the 2 and he has a second doc for the Lock ranges of the Dechirped 9Ls
Yeah. The smokeless motor is what really sells that advantage, I doubt the 9Ls would get many kills even in SB except against the most unawares person possible.
That being said, its just a nice little bit of “Seasoning” something to give these aircraft something a little bit unique
Yeah, its all the buff needed imo until such time Gen 5 IRs can be added to all at the same time. Though I fear that by the time this is implemented, we will already have them, but will be ncie still on lower BR stuff
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I already mentioned the collapse and bankruptcy of the USSR in my 1st post, so I simply referred to it as “financial issues” here to avoid repeating myself. since it can be difficult to follow the different lines on conversation in the forum threads, here is the original post for reference:
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Sure there was a lot more going on, but the important part for the topic at hand is that there was no money for military development.
Lol the f18 is not in anyway the US’s best dogfighter .
It loses too much speed and is crushed by the f15a and the f16 in the 2 circle .
The f18 will win the 1 circle but you cannot force a 1 circle fight , against a competent player it will lose to all other planes except the mig29s and the mirages .
Willy walrus dkd an entire video on this
Object 195 never happened, the entirety of the Su-35 and Su-37 lineage, AL-41F never happened, yknow what… Quite literally everything that was the peak of Russian design came from the '90s and IMMEDIATELY died in 2001~2003.