AIM 9M Sucks, R27ER is OP

It’s Russian, that’s what it comes down to.

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It a radar missile if you want it to not hit you got to notch or get very low

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›Dogfighting is niche
›In a gamemode that devolves into a giant furball once the largest elements of each team make contact
Combine a missile that pulls insane maneuvers off the rail with HMD and you get something that’s absolutely bonkers
Yeah it can be flared and kinetically defeated if you know its coming just like the AIM-9M
But the fact you can just snap people left and right up and down while flying through the furball with the HMD gives it a pretty large advantage over competition

You can HMD with the F-16C though and the AIM-9C can pull some tricks too, but not like I’ve watched people do with the Flanker and 40G R-73s
I don’t find the R-73 as disgusting as the 27ER regardless

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In my experience this doesn’t always work, but if you’re talking about that thing where you point at the ground to make the missile “predict” a course that is just in the ground, that might work? I haven’t really had the opportunity to try it much.

Not to mention the R-27ER (and ET for that matter) sometimes just going full insane mode and absolutely demolishing anything and everything they look at, it is kind of annoying to fight lol.

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do you have top tier? if so I think I see why you’re doing poorly, don’t fly into the furball, fly around the outside and launch missiles at players.
and yes, dogfighting is niche as you’re more than likely going to get 3rd partied and die.
one aspect the aim9m is superior is range and eccm use these it can also pull 30g so nobody is dodging them unless you launch them poorly.
and it’s literally so easy to defeat r27ers and any sarhs for that matter, just drop low.

it is literally 100% a fact that if you drop low to tree top level no sarh will hit you, the r27er isn’t different

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Maybe I’m still thinking DCS tactics where low = dead but that just doesn’t seem like it would be right. Not that I have much experience with it, more often than not my SARHs are launched at people at least 500m above the ground. and they generally hit.

I would take R73 over 9M any day lol, if you preflare 9m is as useless as r73 but the fact that r73 can do 180 turn and snipe someone off the rail is much more usefull than better ircm when there is so many flairs in the air anyway

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Yes, I’ve nearly free aced’ the F-15A
And from hundreds of battles in the 4S and 23L on top of that

Where in my post did I say I did poorly for doing such? I said that is a primo way to get kills with the HMD on the Flanker
Can you read?

Lol

You can dodge them if they aren’t launched straight up your asshole and you know they’re coming. Rear aspect and within 5km or so and you’re dead usually

lmfao they don’t plot the insane lead like Sparrows so you literally need to be double digit meters off the ground, but they go a fantasy speed so its normally not an issue and they hit either way
Nevermind that the 27ER was unable to be launched on the deck within 3mi but we’ll just ))) that away

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Isn’t the max speed of the R-27s supposed to be M4.5 or so? How fast are they in game I haven’t checked like ever

Aim9Ms are massive WIP, they are no where near finished. They are missing like half their lock range and some of their IRCCM abilities. Not too mention they feel kinda useless in head-ons at the moment and not as effective as expected when used with SEAM

Mach 5.8 lmao
Combine that with the near perfect tracking and data link
And you get balans)

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I have free aced the mig29 and su27 fyi, and “lol” isn’t an argument i’m literally correct. and r27ers don’t reach mach 5.5 that’s just the stat card

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You gotta hope to god they don’t see it coming in the headon because if they flare that’s the only hot thing the missile ends up seeing

The R27 is only disgusting to those who don’t defend against it. You just need to practice the principles of SARH avoidance.

When I get killed by any radar missile, I just own it. I put myself in that position.

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R-27s are about 3.5M
R-27Es are about 5.8M

The Es were designed to counter Aim120A. By being so fast they hit the target before the ARH went active. But we don’t have AMRAAMs it’s a massively unfair fight at the moment

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US answear to R73 archer was Aim 9X with high off boresight capabilites, 9M is outdated anyway

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No I lol’d at “dogfighting is niche because you’ll just get third partied so stay out and third party like a rat”
There’s no argument to that because its a perfectly valid tactic right next to making supersonic HMD passes

Yep, tornado F3 should have 4x ASRAAM at the moment as well

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AIM-9X my beloved
Don’t forget the 7M is gimped to fuck by being just a copy paste of the 7F

7M was a big cumulative upgrade that incorporated the Skyflash’s upgrades onto our own
70% hit rate irl iirc

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