China also suffer from same issue.
I mean look at their tanks, missiles and jets.
Most of them aren’t even close to bein accurate in terms of performance.
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Typical snail move.
MK2 and MKK are laugthing at the corner.
Didn’t pl12a get a 19kg weight increase?
Edit: no apparently the Chinese are exempt from reports.
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I wouldn’t mention that if i were u.
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thx
I will suggest it in somewhere else
literally had enough of all these nerf
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meanwhile one nation gets a better AA :)
too bad the amraam gets pooped on…
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It does defy logic if one assumes that business aims alone are their objective.
The report was to make sure we can use PL12AE sources
Now actually getting sources for the bigger motor begins
Man gaijin is really living up to the Aim-120DOA name
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it feels like the only aim120 that received proper effort and care in it modeling was the aim120A on launch tho i guess that must have been an accident cause ever since then its been a downward spiral when it comes to how the devs handle the missile
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—big tinfoil moment ahead but— I believe they modelled it fine when it was on release, but when they noticed it overshadowed the R-77 in nearly every single circumstance, they nuked it deliberately. And since then they’re gaslighting us into thinking improvements in tracking and range will overshadow its basic maneuverability issues in a vacuum, ignoring that ratios of success on ARH slings depend proportionally on how close the range of sling was.
Man I even tried playing C-5s at 14.7 even with an AESA radar, and its just a pathetic missile at nearly every circumstance, I don’t even get how people make them work at all.
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its too small to be a true swiss army knife. a modernized F-15E, or any advanced eagle sure, but not an F-16. you can pack on 2 sensor pods, 8 AAM, and then you get into the more versatile stations with an Advanced Eagle
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[DEV] AIM-120D Lacking HOBS Capabilities // Gaijin.net // Issues
Could you post the source/image from this report please?
can it even actually hit the advertised range? on statshark it barely has enough battery for 185km on a mach 0.9 target, mach 1.7 launch, at 11km altitude, but as far as i know it’s not particularly accurage (in fact, the AIM-120 seems to loft quite high, dive behind the target, and then chase in most 70+km shots.)
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Will do
Cant wait for them to not add the different flight path, the newer amraams should climb A BUNCH before diving down on the missiles target.
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Flight path is irrelevant for current gameplay meta.
The minimum no escape zone is unchanged, and will only make a difference for 100km+ shots, which is worthless against any targets that regularly change altitude, speed and heading.
I’d argue that it’s actually pretty good to have a bigger loft. Aside from the fact that it gives bigger range, a high loft tends to make missiles go much more vertical, especially on low altitude targets, negating their multipath to a certain degree.
The amount of time I got killed by r77-1 specifically early game from a missile launched 30+km away can attest to that.
Now, multipath alone is sometimes not sufficient, you have to turn to get the missile in a different inclination
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It’s not really relevant as it will drastically increase the time-to-hit, currently all missiles are really easy to notch anyways long range anyways, so most dangerous engagements happen at much closer ranges and that’s where the HOBS capabilities of the AIM-120 really start hurting it.
Since according to the devs there isn’t any actual information indicating an improvement in maneuverability, the only way to make the 120D better is by reducing it’s seeker FoV and maybe tweaking, if necessary tweaking the angle gating so that it’s stronger against chaff, making shots viable and harder to evade at longer ranges. Of course these specific values aren’t public data either but public information suggests that from the early C variants the AIM-120s have received several hardware and software upgrades related to guidance which in my opinion probably include improvements against CMs. Maybe @tripod2008 knows more about that and if a viable report in this regard is even possible.