Aim 120 c5 and c7 question

Machinery of War Discussion
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Evening everyone,

Just a quick question,

Aren’t the Aim-120 c-5 and c-7 supposed to be smokeless?

Thanks.

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Even 120A should

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Sorry guys, just read other articles about this issue. Let’s keep this thread open to discuss this and the aim54c being smokeless, thanks.

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I dont think so

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I dont think the motor implicity changed. It just got bigger on the C5

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And it got reduced smoke

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Which would require a different propellent.

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Not an issue for a country with a defense budget like the us

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gaijin frankly doesn’t care

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Same with the 54c

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Wasnt talking about money. If the only difference (that I am aware off) between A/B and C+ is that C5 got an expanded motor. Then they all likely use the same propellent. Ergo, A/B & C5/C7 should probably all be smokeless.

I also recall seeing something somewhere about A/B being reduced smoke as well.

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For the a and b the sources are mixed. To hard to tell

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While the exact formulation of the motor is classified, they have all been “smokeless” formulations since inception as improving over the AIM-7 was the intent

That said, a smokeless motor is much like a silencer on a firearm. They reduce, but do not totally eliminate signature.

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Yeah. but until such time we get decent contrail modeling. There shouldnt be any difference between Aim-9M and AMRAAM from what ive read.

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Reduce overall and remove with some conditions

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Wouldn’t disagree with that.

I’d settle for better seeker modeling and performance and leave the plume/trail though.

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Every AMRAAM should be smokeless. GunJob said that it might be for balance

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