I have no idea where you getting these numbers from. A while ago i did some math based on the numbers in game and brochure that would make with your number perform significantly worse as i means no sustainer
Boeing explicitly states AH-64Es are compatible with JAGMs.
And LockMart states even AH-64As can fire them with a software update.
The Chinese AH-64E however doesn’t have LDIRCM.
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Then the devs should go through the other tec trees and add weapons that are compatible with their aircraft that the nations didnt purchase.
They already have.
This rule has been used for well over a decade.
i wouldn’t say a rule more like a excuse the devs use arbitrarily when it suits their narrative then pretend isnt a valid reason to have a weapon added when they feel like denying something.
Arbitrary? Go complain to Boeing then.
You mean like the Brimstones Paveway IVs PGMs AIM-9Ms 25mm APFSDS AGM-65G AGM-65F AGM-65E Paveway IIs and many more weapons that are on planes and tanks that jever had them IRL
Ahem Tiger KHT for Germany, basically the Yak-141 of the German heli three. No DLIRCCM, but it would get a powerful 30 mm auto cannon and mini IRIS-T for its air-to-air loadout.
What I really don’t understand is, what’s the point of adding these new helicopters without LDIRCM. How are these helicopters supposed to be competitive with no protection systems like the US AH64E, USSR MI28NM and Chinas Z10ME with LDIRCM protection?
ESPECIALLY when we know Gaijin is yet to introduce a mechanic to overwhelm these systems. Not sure why they even bothered to add LDIRCM to begin with.
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There are different versions of Ah-64E. Ealier versions must recieve software/hardware changes in order for them to be compatible.
The V6 (and maybe v4.5) are the only versions that are compatible with JAGM without software/hardware changes.
Version 1 which the Taiwanese uses and the Version 4 which the Indonesians use are not compatible with the JAGM. There has been no sources indicating that that have recieve upgrades
Its why the only nations that use JAGMs, operate 64E v6.
I don’t have DCS installed to trial the AH-64D and check its MFDs for potential software version information existing on one of the pages, but that’s where I’d look before challenging your claims here.
What vehicles are shipped with, and what they currently operate aren’t inherently the same.
You’re right which is why it’s not my primary reasoning, it’s to support it. The JAGM are out-of-the-box compatible with the V6. V4s and V1s need upgrades in order for them to be compatible with the JAGM.
There are no JAGM operators that don’t use Apache V6s.
@Smin1080p_WT , I wanted to go back to this post that you made on different thread
How come the Taiwanese AH-64E V1 and Indonesian Ah-64E V4 is getting the JAGM, when it requires V6? Yes it’s technically compatible as long as these helicopters get it’s upgrades, but these helicopters have not gotten them AFAIK.
So if these helicopters are able to get the JAGM even though it’s not currently compatible, what’s stopping the AHS, and other hellfire platforms from getting them?
because they are NOT GETTING JAGM
THEY ARE GETTING A NONEXISTENT MISSILE (hello kh38 haters where you at) JAGM-MR
Lockheed Martin disagrees with you
“On November 16, Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control successfully conducted a 16 km flight test for the Joint Air-to-Ground Missile-Medium Range (JAGM-MR) at Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake.” - JAGM-MR: The Future of JAGM | Lockheed Martin
“Lockheed Martin successfully conducted a JAGM-MR guided flight test on Dec. 2, 2023, at China Lake Test Range in California.” - Media - Lockheed Martin - Releases
Its the same amount of proof for a new seeker and new missile as kh38
No?
There is no confirmation of a KH-38MT launch and is now not even metioned in there marketing
Hey. JAGM has been integrated on AH-64E and is avalable via software upgrades. We have many vehicles akin to this in game.
AHS is an AH-64A variant, entirely far detached from just a simple software update and massively out of the timeframe from when Sweden tested the Apache.
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But it’s been integrated on V6, not the V4 or V1. Yes software upgrades can make compatibile but it doesn’t only mean it’s limited to any 64E platform.
As per the brochure
Compatible with all JAGM user platforms, as well as HF/Longbow platforms with software updates
Hence why I said technically any Apache or hellfire platforms can be given the JAGM.
Vehicles that received upgrades get the weapon systems its compatible with
Or
Vehicles that have yet to recieve upgrades get the weapon system its compatible with?
For me this is where the issue lies. I don’t see a standard here.
It’s quite obvious that yes, the 64A needs more them just a simple software upgrade but the same thing can be said about 64EV1 and 64EV4. Both version are massively different from V6.
So what makes it any different from the 64A or other HL platforms?
How many years does it take for something to be “out of the timeframe”?
Currently no AH-64A has been integrated with JAGM and there is no evidence they can be without modifications to D/E standard.
The standard is quite simple. Our AHS is based on the Swedish trialed AH-64A. As this was the only possible advanced attack helicopter they could receive other than the trialed MI-28.
The AHS is nowhere near the timeframe of JAGM and the AH-64A currently has no evidence of JAGM integration. So sadly the AHS has already been stretched to its theoretical max.