AH-64D with Spikes

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But it might be soon-ish.

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There is also precedence for them not, like Napalm for the F-4J(UK). So we’ll have to wait and see

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sweet, that makes things a lot simpler. personally i want JAGM-MR and Barracuda 100 on AH-64 and AH-1Z

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Cant wait to see the AH64s actually be usable at top tier. Its crazy how gaijin left them in such a trash gimped state.

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The only thing only ever test fired but never approved was Brimstone, as it was test fired on a classified version of the AH-64 that we don’t know if was fully production components used [for example could have prototype equipment only used on that version], and England pulled out of the request.
So instead Boeing kept testing SPIKE and JAGM, and both were approved for AH-64E use.

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its a 11.7 longbow apache with hellfire K’s 30 flares/15 chaff+ 15flare, no IRCCM no starstreaks or any other gimmicks the other ones have

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Ehh it just sounds like a slightly worse apache A which sits at 11.7 to. All the A has is 9Ls but still all apaches need to be buffed

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i mean we got Israeli AH-60 with 16 spikes so why not lol

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it can add agm-114L for ah-64D

AGM-114L Hellfire LongBow

  • Produced: 1995–2005, 2016
  • Target: All armored targets
  • Range: 8,700 yd (8,000 m)
  • Guidance:
    • Fire and forget millimeter-wave (MMW) radar seeker coupled with inertial guidance
    • Homing capability in adverse weather and the presence of battlefield obscurants
    • Programmable fuzing and guidance
  • Warhead: 20 lb (9 kg) tandem shaped charge high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) insensitive munitions (IM) warhead
  • Length: 71 in (180 cm)
  • Weight: 108 lb (49 kg)
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The problem is the MMW seeker. They’ve been hard denied for now and they won’t consider a placeholder alternative such as IR guidance for them at this time

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Maybe suggesting a vehicle first will open the 114L for testing and seeing how it performs.

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Apache wouldn’t suck as bad if the freaking IOG actually worked properly

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for some reason they are very hesistant on improving the 114’s

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Perhaps, though doesn’t the soviet ATGM thing with a radar basically already have MMW at least in a round about manner?

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As far as I am aware it is modeled correctly. At least the IOG

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While the khrizantemas radar is mmw the missile itself is radar beam riding instead of mmw active radar seeker like in 114L’s if i remember correctly

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Teamkilling and undefeatable means not possible.

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thats true, but given the the biggest reason given for not adding 114L was being able to track through smoke while the khrizantema can already do that its a bit annoying.

I know the missiles are approaching from a different angle so you do have more cover against khrizantema than you should against 114L but it still feels a bit off.

given how KH38s act currently with IOG and sometimes reacquiring people who smoke I dont see an issue adding 114L as long as they make it require a lock before launch like they have with ARH air to air missiles.

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Yeah, but the principle would be largely the same, except it’s not FnF and it seems like their issue with air launched versions is the fact that normal smoke doesn’t work

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The longbow radar is capable of target classification which makes me question it’s capability of IFF.

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