US AH-64Es have at least test fired Spikes. So that is one option. JAGM-MRs and just being Laser+IR is another.
For the UK… its messier. In theory they could do a AH-64E = AH-64E and just give us Spikes or JAGM-MRs too. But god knows.
The Other option might be the Wildcat if a source can be found to confirm Martlets have IR guidance
JAGM-MR is tri seeker. JAGM is dual.
Nor do I. But I could see IR guided JAGM-MRs being upgraded to MMW JAGM-MRs if/when that becomes an option
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It’s not test-fired, it’s fully provisioned and approved for all AH-64Es ever produced.
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Yeah, so could be added as IR+Laser, without the MMW. But hasnt been tested yet, so we’ll have to wait and see
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There is precedence for this I don’t see why they couldn’t do that.
But it might be soon-ish.
There is also precedence for them not, like Napalm for the F-4J(UK). So we’ll have to wait and see
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sweet, that makes things a lot simpler. personally i want JAGM-MR and Barracuda 100 on AH-64 and AH-1Z
Cant wait to see the AH64s actually be usable at top tier. Its crazy how gaijin left them in such a trash gimped state.
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The only thing only ever test fired but never approved was Brimstone, as it was test fired on a classified version of the AH-64 that we don’t know if was fully production components used [for example could have prototype equipment only used on that version], and England pulled out of the request.
So instead Boeing kept testing SPIKE and JAGM, and both were approved for AH-64E use.
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April 3, 2025, 8:04am
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its a 11.7 longbow apache with hellfire K’s 30 flares/15 chaff+ 15flare, no IRCCM no starstreaks or any other gimmicks the other ones have
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Ehh it just sounds like a slightly worse apache A which sits at 11.7 to. All the A has is 9Ls but still all apaches need to be buffed
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i mean we got Israeli AH-60 with 16 spikes so why not lol
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April 3, 2025, 6:34pm
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it can add agm-114L for ah-64D
AGM-114L Hellfire LongBow
Produced: 1995–2005, 2016
Target: All armored targets
Range: 8,700 yd (8,000 m)
Guidance:
Fire and forget millimeter-wave (MMW) radar seeker coupled with inertial guidance
Homing capability in adverse weather and the presence of battlefield obscurants
Programmable fuzing and guidance
Warhead: 20 lb (9 kg) tandem shaped charge high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) insensitive munitions (IM) warhead
Length: 71 in (180 cm)
Weight: 108 lb (49 kg)
The problem is the MMW seeker. They’ve been hard denied for now and they won’t consider a placeholder alternative such as IR guidance for them at this time
Maybe suggesting a vehicle first will open the 114L for testing and seeing how it performs.
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Apache wouldn’t suck as bad if the freaking IOG actually worked properly
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for some reason they are very hesistant on improving the 114’s
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Perhaps, though doesn’t the soviet ATGM thing with a radar basically already have MMW at least in a round about manner?