they could at least fix hellfires velocity, flight trajectory and IOG
and maybe add some of the later ones with a blast frag warhead and proxy fuse to deal with air and AA
I imagine with the AH-64E they could also consider adding the JAGM, minus the mmw radar guidance. The AH-1Z could also carry it already, but I guess they are saving it for the new additions rather than adding it to something older. An AH-1Z with them could be really strong though…
Isnt that just the Hellfire we’ve already got? (for all intent and purposes)
JAGM has a tri-mode seeker, mmw + IR + SALH, so remove the mmw and we are left with IR + SALH. Would be pretty powerful I think.
Wait… maybe that was only the JAGM-MR
Yeah, was thinking, I dont think the base JAGM has IR,
That would be JAGM-MR. Which is still an option I suppose, if they are happy with 16km IR guided AGMs on helis or not.
Well, yeah I don’t think we’ll be seeing that then… Sucks, I suppose that leads us back to the Spike.
Though I still think they might add the JAGM anyway just to have something new, and still without mmw of course. They would probably make its IOG drift just a tad better than the Hellfire one, maybe more like that of the Brimstone (still not super great, but better). But yeah, I guess without mmw it’s not much more than the Hellfire we already have. Or maybe by then Gaijin will have implemented sufficient countermeasures for mmw radar seekers for them to be implemented.
Actually, fairly certain they are already identical.
This is my hope as to why we’ve not seen the AH-64E, that MMW will come sooner rather than later.
Inertial drift of the Hellfire is 3.5, Brimstone is at 2.0
Anyways, it doens’t matter much. Both are not accurate enough to hit anything without lasing, though I haven’t tested how close Brimstones get. It would matter a bit more if they made it so they would switch back to IOG after LOL however, which the Hellfire at least doesn’t seem to.
Yeah, both have their IOG disable after use of laser.
But yeah, for the US at least Spike is probably the best option.
The Tricky bit becomes Britain and other Apache nations.
So far, they’ve been a bit stingy on giving Britian weapon system it did not implicity use. Which probably means no Spikes. Which then leaves JAGM or Brimstones. Neither of which are FnF without MMW.
After that maybe the Wildcat with Martlets which might have IR guidance
they aint gonna give them to AH1Z
they didnt even give it a good RWR, despite entering service less than 20 years ago it cant identify threats in service well before that
You know what would take the cake is if Gaijin adds the AH-64E then add an AH-64D blk III as a premium .3 br lower with less advanced weapons. Even though it is the same aircraft just redesignated.
Iirc the SPIKE on our Apaches are new gen and should be much better than what’s ingame.
I’ll try to keep track of JAGM-MR testing to see when/if that gets put on an Apache, since that would be a pretty big upgrade. Anduril’s Barracuda 100 could also be tested on Apaches
JAGM-MR apparently has same size as plain JAGM, so should be able to fire from Apache, but I feel like GJ being GJ, it’ll have to be fired from one
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JAGM-MR has identical or nearly identical dimensions to plain JAGM so I’d say that’s your best bet
JAGM-MR would still be an AH-64E.
I think the idea is FnF without MMW, which yes would still come with the AH-64E, but would be a reason to add the AH-64E before MMW
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I agree entirely with the JAGM being added as it is an option that isn’t mmw. Problem I see is we would need to get the AH-64E for it.
Which only Gaijin knows when that will be.
Yeah, but I wonder if they arent adding the AH-64E because they are saving it for MMW,
As that would be the ultimate option for FnF for US and Britain.
So in the meantime, definetly worth exploring alternatives for FnF as we have no timeline for MMW
MMW would be available for the UKs and USs 64Ds. If they holding off for 64E to add MMW that would be weird. When the JAGM-MR uses a tri seeker giving it the option to use imaging while they could just add the 114L to the 64D.
Yeah, but I can see them wanting to save the AH-64D as SAL-Only Hellfires and the AH-64E being the FnF Apache, that way they could be at differing BRs in the future if we ever get a top tier decompression.
I can’t think of any ATM i don’t know of any 64s that weren’t upgraded to the E variant for JAGM tirals.