AH-64D Saraph Late שרף

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AH-64D Saraph

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Israel’s military helicopter fleet is mainly composed of American made helicopters from Sea Stallions to Apache’s.
Today I will be suggesting a new addition to the lonely helicopter currently in Israel’s helicopter tech tree and not only is this another attack helicopter but its the Big brother of the AH-64A Peten, the AH-64D Saraph (Hebrew: שרף, for venomous/fiery winged serpent).

Israel in 2000 wanted to procure 48 AH-64D’s as they had AH-64A’s since the 90’s and wanted to upgrade their fleet. In 2005 was when the first delivery of AH-64D’s were delivered to Israel. According to Boeing’s press releases the first AH-64D was delivered APR 11, 2005. The first purchase order was announced on FEB 19, 2001 that Israel was to purchase 9 AH-64D Longbow’s the purchase order included the aircraft, ordnance, spares, training and support and at the time was stated to cost approximately 500$ Million (USD).

FEB 23, 2000 Israel agreed to with with Boeing to upgrade 12 of their AH-64A’s into AH-64D’s.

On APR 20, 2021 Boeing released a statement that they are signed a 5 year follow-on contract to support Israeli’s AH fleet (AH-64A’s and AH-64D’s) with integrated logistics support.

According to some websites Israel currently has 22 AH-64’s

Israel also upgrade some of AH-64D’s into AH-64D-I with domestic communication systems and other domestically built technical equipment.

There is a lot of modern political and controversial situations about the history of the vehicle in Israel so those are left out of the history part to be save and to conform to WarThunder rules about political topics. Please refrain from talking about political topics in the comments.

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Crew: 2 (pilot, and co-pilot/gunner)
Length: 58 ft 2 in (17.73 m)
Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)
Height: 12 ft 8 in (3.87 m)
Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)
Gross weight: 17,650 lb (8,006 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701 turboshaft engines, 1,690 shp (1,260 kW) each (upgraded to 1,890 shp (1,409 kW) T700-GE-701C for AH-64A/D from 1990)
Main rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)
Main rotor area: 1,908.5 sq ft (177.31 m2) 4-bladed main-rotor and 4-bladed tail-rotor in non-orthogonal alignment
Blade section: root: HH-02; tip: NACA 64A006[349]
Performance

Maximum speed: 158 kn (182 mph, 293 km/h)
Cruise speed: 143 kn (165 mph, 265 km/h)
Never exceed speed: 197 kn (227 mph, 365 km/h)
Range: 257 nmi (296 mi, 476 km) with Longbow radar mast
Combat range: 260 nmi (300 mi, 480 km)
Ferry range: 1,024 nmi (1,178 mi, 1,896 km)
Service ceiling: 20,000 ft (6,100 m)
Disk loading: 9.8 lb/sq ft (48 kg/m2)
Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (0.30 kW/kg)
Armament
Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds
Hardpoints: Four pylon stations on the stub wings.
Rockets: Hydra 70 70 mm
Missiles: Typically AGM-114 Hellfire variants and Spike missiles
( AH-64A’s were unable to field the Spike which resulted in the AH-64A’s to be upgraded to AH-64Ai’s * [might be incorrect I’m having trouble finding good sources about it])
(I also can find they had some form of Air-to-Air capability but I cannot find any evidence of them having stingers or any other form of AAM’s and that Air-to-Air capability might of just been Hellfire/spike/gun)

Sources:

https://www.iaf.org.il/211-en/IAF.aspx

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+1 I don’t know AH-64D Saraph from IDF in Israel tech tree integrated Spike SR ?

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Pretty much, the addition of Spike’s and the lack of Stinger’s

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-1 Helicopters are already a major annoyance gameplay-wise, and though I dislike how OP the Russian ones are compared to everything else in-game, I don’t think making any nations helicopters even better is healthy for the game.

If this helicopter is added anyways, it should not receive any F&F munitions such as spikes, as they’d make the helicopter too powerful, seeing as the AH-64 is a vastly superior platform to the UHT

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Hold on… Don’t we already have the Saraph in game?

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this is an old post from an old forum. this forum creates before Israel had a heli tech tree.

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It’s not about that, we have different Sharaf in game (AH-64D-I), it’s basically differs from standard AH-64D in that it has Israeli made avionics. So the heli suggested here is not the one in game, question is why we need identical Sharaf. IMO we don’t necessarily need it, maybe squadron vehicle.

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Please include the GATR rockets. Not only Hydras are used.

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but look at the post it’s said AH-64D, and this is the same as in the game. more flare but not drop tank

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The main difference is the addition of Spike launchers

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But AH-64D Saraph from israel tech tree limited AGM-114K only and before integrated Spike ?

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Saraph

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I’m confused by what you mean. Israel started to receive AH-64D’s in 2001 onwards but only around 2017 they were modified to allow the integration of Spike missiles as missile platform after USA started to block the some of the sale of Hellfire’s to Israel after a few “incidents” (research it online if you are interested, as I want to avoid political topics in this thread). They were put in a position where they had to start investigating potential alternatives for keeping these helicopters combat capable at the time.

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I just wondered AH-64D Saraph from israel tech tree no Spike ATGM

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+1,please