Isnt here also declassification order?
???
The 9M has 2-3x the agility of an Igla, twice the seeker tracking rate for less range
theres a reason 28NMs and Ka-50s never bother with these things over just taking more Vikhrs.
Worse IRCCM, DISGUSTING energy retention to the point where it can’t reach a target moving away from you even if you launch from 1.5-2km.
The Ka-50 gets 2 iglas, why in heaven’s unholy game would you take them over 6 ATGMs?
Mi-28NMs are attack helicopters, there’s no reason to take Iglas over Vikhrs and Vikhrs do the exact same thing with an extra 2km of effective range.
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I think Western MANPADs should just be fixed first, without the whole ‘but muh igla can’t do it!’ excuse
Then we can see if more is needed
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Export restricted, can’t be used for bug reports, basically the same as if it was actually classified (not available to public at all)
Mach 1.4 flying straight past you maybe?
If it’s that bad you’d be saying ATAS is better since it also has more Range + FoV+Seeker Shutoff IRCCM (and a better seeker head for All-Aspect locks). 9M is so much more agile than 9M39 Igla even with the latters launch gyro.
(used 9L because smokeless motor ruins the visual)
if you are talking about same manual as in these reports - probably you can use it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EfRAOsqvDHBC
Silly me, I forgot the AH-1Z faces MiG-15s in ground matches… And not jets that sit comfortably at mach 1.2 at Sea Level
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An AH-1Z isn’t chasing around air targets in ground matches.
Not in my considerable experience. I spend more time trying to clear the skies than I do trying to make Hellfires pretend to function correctly.
The range is almost always the issue, not the maneuverability.
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True
but no amount of vodka and bathsalts makes the Igla a better A2A missile than 9M.
Well you sure as shit won’t be facing a MiG-15Bis in your 12.0 GRB match or any GSB rotation. What else would you find that isn’t going full AB and never once getting within 5km of you?
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Except the range, similar maneuverability, better seeker… Either you get the point or you’re long lost.
you sure it can actually carry the missile rn?
All of the missiles on helis will struggle to do anything in that scenario
“similar manoeuvrability”
No.
I understand the point(s) it just doesn’t make the Igla a better missile.
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In which case others will have far better chances to hit a target.
Are you dyslexic?
Mach 0.9 (or faster) and never getting closer than 5km? Not that much better.
Apparently.
Two 9X would not even come close to the A2A performance of 8, let alone 16 TY-90s
But the AH-1Z is american, and american helis aren’t allowed to be effective at anything
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For those who are against the idea of the AIM-9X for the AH-1Z.
Perhaps another slight upgrade to the AIM-9M-4 Sidewinder (current in-game) by replacing it with the later block AIM-9M-8/10 missile instead?
It would just have better tracking against more modern infrared countermeasures, new missile audio tones for the pilot, some visual changes to the forward hangar material and its cager assembly (to match F/A-18E/F environment requirements), and that’s about it.
Everything from the G overload and rocket mortar performance would remain the same.
I personally think that the AH-1Z would still be a good balancing platform to test AIM-9Xs at least before the current or later blocks of the F-15C/E, F-16C and F/A-18 Hornet, or even the F-22 or F-35 come officially to the game with theirs in the future.
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