Don’t forget that the AH-1Z is STILL missing the ability to carry 6x AIM-9s, reported 5 and 7(!!!) years ago
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/435929-14-12-2018-ah-1z-sidewinder-count/
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It’s basically a non-factor because they modeled it’s pointing charge so it actually has a better off the rails performance than any other MANPAD, because of their erroneous modelling of the Stinger and Mistral.
Ah, aight, I knew about the scuffed modelling of non-Soviet MANPADS, but I didn’t think it would be that much better off the rails. I would have expected that they would be about as bad (or inconsistent) as Stingers.
honestly should probably be reported through the new system
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The problem is that it can’t be reported because the manual is from 2008…and both of those reports were before the whole “classified document leaks” and “we can’t use restricted manuals anymore” -despite them using a restricted manual to limit F-111F carrying AGM-130 to only 2 instead of 4 (also the reason why AV-8B outrigger pylon AIM-9s can’t be reported, restricted docs)
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They don’t matter much at all, as they have pre-boost corrections that will account for any lead it has to pull.
Isnt here also declassification order?
???
The 9M has 2-3x the agility of an Igla, twice the seeker tracking rate for less range
theres a reason 28NMs and Ka-50s never bother with these things over just taking more Vikhrs.
Worse IRCCM, DISGUSTING energy retention to the point where it can’t reach a target moving away from you even if you launch from 1.5-2km.
The Ka-50 gets 2 iglas, why in heaven’s unholy game would you take them over 6 ATGMs?
Mi-28NMs are attack helicopters, there’s no reason to take Iglas over Vikhrs and Vikhrs do the exact same thing with an extra 2km of effective range.
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I think Western MANPADs should just be fixed first, without the whole ‘but muh igla can’t do it!’ excuse
Then we can see if more is needed
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Export restricted, can’t be used for bug reports, basically the same as if it was actually classified (not available to public at all)
Mach 1.4 flying straight past you maybe?
If it’s that bad you’d be saying ATAS is better since it also has more Range + FoV+Seeker Shutoff IRCCM (and a better seeker head for All-Aspect locks). 9M is so much more agile than 9M39 Igla even with the latters launch gyro.
(used 9L because smokeless motor ruins the visual)
if you are talking about same manual as in these reports - probably you can use it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EfRAOsqvDHBC
Silly me, I forgot the AH-1Z faces MiG-15s in ground matches… And not jets that sit comfortably at mach 1.2 at Sea Level
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An AH-1Z isn’t chasing around air targets in ground matches.
Not in my considerable experience. I spend more time trying to clear the skies than I do trying to make Hellfires pretend to function correctly.
The range is almost always the issue, not the maneuverability.
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True
but no amount of vodka and bathsalts makes the Igla a better A2A missile than 9M.
Well you sure as shit won’t be facing a MiG-15Bis in your 12.0 GRB match or any GSB rotation. What else would you find that isn’t going full AB and never once getting within 5km of you?
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Except the range, similar maneuverability, better seeker… Either you get the point or you’re long lost.
you sure it can actually carry the missile rn?