AH-1G is Fun but Overrated

[rainy2000]

@Normandy_Corsair

Reducing numbers reduces numbers, less ifvs is less ifvs

That’s true, but is it really enough to make them viable?

@Normandy_Corsair

Uhh, do you know how matchmaking weight works and how this directly means 6.7 will see it way more often?

That’s true, but is the Cobra that difficult to defeat?

@Normandy_Corsair

And now even a 76 jumbo can see a game with a cobra attack helicopter?

I mean, sure, but I’d argue the 76mm Jumbo would have an easier time with the Cobra than something like the Tiger II. A stablized 6s reload gun with a roof-mounted 50.cal is much better than a 7.5s reload gun with a roof-mounted 7.92.

@Normandy_Corsair

No, because thats extremely normal and what everybody does if you’re playing a minor nation that doesn’t have 6 tanks at every BR

Ok, well then they’d have to deal with the consequences. Gaijin should introduce more vehicles to fill in barren lineups too.

@Normandy_Corsair

No, a ton would go up in proper decompression

Well, I said relative. Sure, a lot of them would go up, but so would the AH-1G probably. If not, then how would that be any different to moving the AH-1G down, from the AH-1G’s perspective… other than overtiered vehicles (like the ASU-85) not having to face the AH-1G?
The Tiger II would still be a 0.7 BR difference to the AH-1G, for example, unless you move both the Tiger II and AH-1G up… but then you’d need to move those OP IFVs and SPHs up by 0.7 BRs to make up for that.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@rainy2000

That’s true, but is it really enough to make them viable?

More viable yea

@rainy2000

That’s true, but is the Cobra that difficult to defeat?

It’s about whats fun and whats not, not about whether something is technically on paper ok or not

@rainy2000

I mean, sure, but I’d argue the 76mm Jumbo would have an easier time with the Cobra than something like the Tiger II. A stablized 6s reload gun with a roof-mounted 50.cal is much better than a 7.5s reload gun with a roof-mounted 7.92.

Ok, should the AH-1G see the M16 SPAA at 2.3 as well since it would easily shoot it down? If you don’t like that I used an SPAA, there are lots of .50 cals on top of tanks at 1.0 too

@rainy2000

Ok, well then they’d have to deal with the consequences.

Yeah that’s not how any of this works.

[Normandy_Corsair]

@rainy2000

but then you’d need to move those OP IFVs and SPHs up by 0.7 BRs to make up for that.

Gaijin has never decompressed ground or air. If they actually did, this would not be wild to you to consider that the vehicles could go up by 0.7 br

[rainy2000]

@Normandy_Corsair

More viable yea

Sure, but my question was would that make them viable? I wouldn’t say so.

@Normandy_Corsair

It’s about whats fun and whats not, not about whether something is technically on paper ok or not

I wouldn’t say it’s frustrating to face a Cobra in a Jumbo 76. It’s more like an RP & SL piñata for it than anything, unless it manages to get some easy FFAR shots on you before you react.

@Normandy_Corsair

Ok, should the AH-1G see the M16 SPAA at 2.3 as well since it would easily shoot it down? If you don’t like that I used an SPAA, there are lots of .50 cals on top of tanks at 1.0 too

As you go lower and lower, the lack of guns, armour, and lack of stabilizer becomes more apparent.
Sure, the M16 and low-tier tanks with 50.cals can kill the Cobra too, but it’s much more of a problem than for something like the Ostwind, BTR-ZD, or even the Jumbo 76.

@Normandy_Corsair

Yeah that’s not how any of this works.

I mean, it is. If you don’t want to face 1.3 BR vehicles above you, don’t use them. Or don’t complain about them because, at the end of the day, it’s the decision you decided to make. It’s not like Gaijin is forcing your hand or moving these 6.0 vehicles to 6.3 arbitrarily.

If we go that route, then I should be able to justify vehicles like the M1 Abrams to move up to 11.0 because it decimates the Leopard 1A5 when people play the 9.7 lineup in France, or the T-72M1 and Strv 105 when people play the 9.7 lineup in Sweden.

Besides, Germany gets a solid 6.3 lineup now. Only those that don’t have the Tiger II (P), JPz 4-5, Jagdpanther, and Me 262 A-1/U4 would opt to using the Panthers and Tigers – again, entirely under their own volition.

@Normandy_Corsair

Gaijin has never decompressed ground or air. If they actually did, this would not be wild to you to consider that the vehicles could go up by 0.7 br

Well they have, just not correctly.
Besides, 0.7 BR increases are only fair if the vehicle(s) are truly outstanding compared to other vehicles, which I’m not sure any 5.3 - 7.7 vehicle truly fits that criteria.