Irrelevant. We don’t need helis that low in the first place. This is just another additional argument.
Yes, but that is the current topic, which is why I am saying they are the issue, rocket helies where viable before all those additions, not so much after. for example there is no real difference in the anti heli capabilities of the SUB-I-II at 5.3 and the weasel at 7.3, but more importantly now many “light tanks” carry the same gun (such as that new BP vehicle), and are far more likely to be pulled 1st spawn then SPAAs, so while SPAA capabilities have not improved significantly, the likelihood of someone spawning something that can effectively shoot back has increased by an order of magnitude.
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It is relevant when you’re looking at balance. Stating exceptions as if they would ruin 6.3 is ridiculous.
Yeas they would ruin 6.3 no doubt. Even the rocket only helis since they can be first spawned.
That’s true, but moving these new autocannon lights, SPHs and SPAAs up would benefit these helicopters at the detriment of those vehicles, which I think isn’t worth it.
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No doubt? I haven’t seen 6.7s being rampaged by them before…what do 6.3s not have that 6.7s do?
Many 6.3s have roof-mounted MGs, SPAAs, and appropriate elevation & gun handling with their main guns to shoot them down.
That’s not really something that you can surmise in a general statement, for example the Sub-I-II uses the same gun and ammo as the XM-800 at 8.7, there are lot of factors to consider in balancing. Gaijin needs to do a complete BR rework, it’s not a matter of X should go up or Y should go down.
And Ill admit, while I’m not for full historical balancing, I get the issues with that, I do find the late cold war vehicles in mostly WW2 matches a bit jarring, I do not really want to see Cobras strafing Tiger 2 on the regular.
It would be a top 5 complaint on the forum until they uptiered it again. Nobody wants helicopters versus ww2 vehicles. Nobody.
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For sure, but we can both agree that the stabilizer, magazine size, gun handling, gun depression, size, and mobility of the XM-800T is significantly better that what the Sub-I-II has that warrants such a BR difference. The Sub-I-II could definitely go up, though.
But many others, like the AMX-10P, are already at a reasonable BR, or even overtiered.
That’s true. The 6.7-9.3 BR range has needed serious BR decompression for a while. While that may help these helicopters, I’m almost confident that they’d still be relatively unused because of their ineffectiveness, just like when the AH-1G moved down from 8.0 to 7.7.
For sure, but again, I never had a thought that the AH-1G was a serious problem in a 6.7 tank, unlike if I were to face the Maus.
War Thunder players complain about the most pettiest things to be fair.
And nobody wants to play these helicopters as a result – they are simply too ineffective to be played in their current matchmaking.
This would be extremely valid.
hmm, suggest decompression or just put a literal cobra attack helicopter at tiger 2’s br
Decompression wouldn’t solve the issue to be fair.
Hell, you said it yourself. Even the Tiger II can really easily kill the AH-1G, and other helicopters like it.
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Holy KPS.
But a 0.3 BR decrease for them would mean the end of the world for 6.3s as we know it!
this is why the Mi-4 is the best starter heli, contrary to popular belief
Z-11WA, H-34, and the Alouette aren’t too shabby either
Sad helis. Now any support for 100sp helirush sp?
What are they at the moment?
Please leave the discussion immediately if you don’t even have any idea of heli sp or any other related common sense
No ww2 meets heli fantasies. bruh.
Sorry, but rocket-only SP for helis isn’t engrained in my mind, precisely because they aren’t worth it.
They already are lmao
especially the Z-11WA with its thermals
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yep. 300sp 310 at full downtier to be precise
the lowest 7.7s are still around pattons. Kinda around the lowest limit ,?