JAGM warhead: about 9 kg, multi-purpose, combines a tandem shaped charge + high-explosive fragmentation action
The missile is specially designed to penetrate modern MBTs from above, as well as to defeat light armored vehicles, shelters and manpower.
According to Lockheed Martin, JAGM provides (one shot, one kill) even against well-protected targets.
https://designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-179.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Please fix this bug.
here no no one can fix it, there you go:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder?from=now%252Fd-6mo&to=now%252Fd
Its probably intentional nerf like they did to spikes
You can’t have FnF weapons like that do the same damage as manually guided ones with similar explosive mass, while being at very similar BRs.
Yes but its too nerfed its not worth taking spikes against mbts above hellfires
More so on such a bad platform with only 4 pylons like ah60
In general helis are usless now exept the ones with dircm
What ?
You can fire your whole salvo of FnF missiles by the time you guide in two Hellfires. Exposure time between those two is vastly different as well.
That thing literally has 16 Spikes.
DIRCM helicopters don’t have FnF missiles so they are getting hard countered by years old AAs.
Yea and out of 16 u will get 3 kills
Yea and if u take all 16 u get no ata missiles and no hellfires to fire on mbts
Doesnt matter its op against everything that isnt saclos
Even if u have fnf the moment u pop out u ginna have ir missile on u and ur done
Hard to believe that when looking at stats of FnF helicopters, especially AH-60 with incredible amount of missiles.
Then you take 12 if you think ATAS can be useful against top tier jets.
And it gets hard countered by SACLOS. Tradeoffs.
With those you can’t even pop out to guide your missiles which takes a lot of time.
Its berly above 2:1 which makes sanse considering it also much more expensive
“Lets be extream and exaggerate”
Ofc ATAS arent great but they can give u some kills on unaware targets
I take 2 Atas 8hf and 4 spikes and its the best loadout if u want to go for a streak
Not with vikhars
And the chines hellfire isnt bad too
Its for a reason that z10me has the most kd on helis exept the event or premium heli with the bullpop
I don’t see DIRCM helicopters perform much better…
Just proving the strength of Israeli vehicles as they can perform even with subpar loadout choices.
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Yea in general helis arent great its all relative but still z10me has thw most kd feom all helis in all ranks
Lamo ur pov is very intresting
Its no secret israeli mains are good player base thats why mid vehicles has good stats
Fast asf so u dont need to keep lock for long time
Hellfires are indeed subpar when compared to Spikes.
Israel has great vehicles, that’s not a secret.
Wish I had the same amount of fun with other, “better” vehicles of the same tier.
600m/s is the maximum speed so it takes you more than 10 seconds to reach a target just 6km away.
AA missiles are much faster.
Sure bad
Ita not like there is better vehicles that can do the exact same thing but better in almost every tech tree
So what? After u fire a hellfire that takes nearly 30 sec vikhars feels like apfsds
Also thats why u use cover/intercept/wait for the spaa to be disracted
Goes for every nation…
600m/s is like 2x slower than AA missiles, you have literally zero chance there.
You also aren’t intercepting anything if the AA player has a single braincell.
No cuz most nations has some unique strength
Not for iarael tho
U didnt played helis and it shows
I allready said what can u do and what strength u can use and yes u can intercept saclos pretty well if u are aware
You’re blind then.
No you can’t unless AA player has a single braincell.
This is not a bug. China’s missiles have also been deliberately weakened. All for Russia’s super kh39
They have damage. Or better to say they have average agm damage same as vikhres for example and average agm damage suck. Top tier tanks have enough places that are pretty good at absorbing heat damage and random point of impact won’t help either.
I thought >180mm calibre damage preset would mostly negate it, but unfortunately it turned out that the caliber of the jagm is smaller. The only thing that can help now is top down attack, same as lmur have. This still won’t give stable oneshots, but in theory it should improve the situation quite a bit.
False
U dont know what u talking about u didnt played helis at all
i think they should rework all atgm of hellfire type do a bigger arch, since if you go higher than 40 meters above the ground - you dead, even now, without new aa for the rest of the countries
