My dude Chieftain, I got a few points for you here.
Egyptian T-34-85 is a Model 1953 or (1953), equipped with a DsHK.
The AO T-34-85 would be the Model 1969 or (1969).
These two models are a must because they were widely exported to African nations.
Algerians and Egyptians also used Su-100 from Czech factories. Those had smokes and could have also used early HEAT shells.
Both T-34-85s can use HEAT shells, and both have smokes. 1969 did not come with a DsHK tho.
Ethiopia has a basic T-55 with rubber side skirts which I simply called T-55 “Rubber” in my tree. In addition, Ethiopians have a T-55 with a D-30 cannon.
Angola also has a T-72M with the old range finder that was not featured in the game yet. Meanwhile, the UNITA used a T-64B.
The Egyptian one is specifically an Egyptian upgrade — not a standard Soviet one, although it does closely resemble some obr. 1969 variants. The sideskirts in particular are not Soviet (to my knowledge)
I’m not sure if the Angolan ones were all obr. 1969. I’ll do some more research, I want to keep one standard WW2-era T-34-85. If I have to switch the nation I will.
Unnecessary copy-paste, imo. Even with the HEAT, although I guess one could go at ~7.0 at Rank IV… I’ll think about it.
The former is unnecessary. There’s a T-54 1949 and a T-55A obr. 1970 for 8.0 and 8.3 respectively, no need for another. The D-30 one is in the tree — it’s Eritrean (and i wrongly identified it as a ZTZ59, it’s actually a T-55M — I need to update the suggestion for it). Unless you mean the T-54/55 shown with a D-30 next to this modified ZSD89? AFAIK there haven’t been any more images of it. Until that happens I won’t add it, because we don’t even know what the modification looks like
There are so many MBTs already that I can’t really add more. Plus, those are both less unique than the vehicles already in the tree.
Trying to reduce copy-paste, and the light tank line is practically full already. They would be fun, maybe I’ll add them in a folder somewhere, I’ll think about it.
[EG] ATS-59G (RL-21) — BR 6.0, Rank IV. Premium Vehicle
Renamed Vehicles:
[EG] T-34-85 (1969) → T-34-85 (1987)
Found new information and edited description accordingly
Moved Vehicles
[SO] Comet: BR 5.7 → 5.3
[EG] T-34-85 (1987): BR 6.0 → 6.3, Rank III → Rank IV
[EG] Tor-M1: BR 11.0 → 11.3
Removed Vehicles
[CM] RAM V-1 (TCM-20)
4.3 is an awkward BR, replaced by the M813 (Type 65) at 4.7 (still awkward but less so), which provides better firepower and could take out enemy vehicles at higher BRs comfortably, which the TCM-20 just can’t do
Possible Additions:
[EG] S-IFV
[EG] M60 Upgrade
Not sure on specs
[EG] T-62 Upgrade
Not sure on specs
[EG] Sena 200 (30mm)
[EG] T-55/122
[EG] 155GH52-SP-T55
[EG] Centurion Mk. III
Notes:
I expanded Rank III with some lower BR vehicles, to help provide a better lineup for new players. Two out of the four 3.7s are copy-paste, but oh well!
I’m trying to fill all the gaps. This update adds a bunch more Egyptian vehicles that I left out originally, and there’s a couple more I need to do some more digging into, primarily their mysterious M60 upgrade (vismod or real vehicle?)
These additions mostly help the lower ranks and the premium section. I’m a bit stuck for Rank VII and VIII — other than more SPAA, I genuinely don’t think I can add anything else at top tier, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
There are only so many gaps to be filled, tbh. I’m trying to keep within the 3 vehicles / folders per line, and trying to keep copy-paste to a minimum.
I do have a list of potential additions in the post, and I’m sure there are more. If you have any specific vehicles in mind feel free to share them, I may have missed them.
But yeah, I do plan on updating it. Just has been lower down on my to-do list :)
Given that copy-paste has been reduced more than I expected in this tree I’d even give this one a pass, though I found it strange that there is no mention of Libya, although they wouldn’t contribute a lot in terms of original vehicles.
The reason Libya is barely in it is because there aren’t many unique additions that aren’t from various non-government factions in the numerous civil wars. I’m not including any vehicles from non-internationally recognised countries or insurgent / terrorist groups because of the political implications.
Maybe there are some good Libyan ones I missed? I’d be happy to add some if there are.
I have searched for one all morning but nothing has come up anywhere unfortunately, so, they’d probably be represented through camouflages or filler vehicles, but there is no significant gap anywhere as I can see.
Just clumping all African nations together and shipping it as a new tree seems wrong in many ways. They fight each other constantly so why are they in a unified tree? They were under provisional control during ww2, so why do they need to have anything below rank V? This would just ruin ww2 ranks more. Seems like bait.
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You make it sound like this alliance is OP’s creation. I assure you, the African Union is very much a real thing.
War Thunder tends to consider geopolitical location more than direct relationships. Just look at East Germany, United Korea, and India in the British tree.
Because believe it or not, many nations use modified WW2 vehicles or weaponry even in the Cold War period.
cool concept but is also missing originality adding the South-African vehicles also wont be able to save this thing but it is cool and I do understand making it a full continent since africa as a whole does not have any countries that really has enough vehicles to make its own full tech tree like we saw south africa by far the most indigenous designs out of most only made it as a sub tree
They don’t operate any vehicle viable for the game far as I know.
It’s easy to just take some vague alliance and call it a day, but they haven’t made any reference to EU or BRICS, so what makes you think there needs to be a whole tree based on one?
This contradicts your statement. They are extremely far away from each other. They draw from both. Alliance & geographical proximity, not just one. That’s why SK should be in JP, but that’s another topic.
That’s not a reason to ruin ww2 ranks.
Honestly I think the South African subtree is enough. This just seems like unnecessary bloat to the game for a tree that no one will play. Just like what happened with Israel. People only wanted to play a few tanks from that tree. It could’ve easily been an US subtree. (For the time being, unless they do some revamp of nations.)
