Add an Eastern European Tech Tree

I propose creating a nation that would combine Eastern European countries sharing a common technical heritage (Soviet), but with unique local modernizations and indigenous vehicle designs.
Eastern European countries — notably **Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Serbia — possess a significant fleet of military equipment that is either not yet represented in the game.

Examples of vehicles that could be included:

Ground Vehicles:

Ukraine: T-64BM, T-84U “Oplot,” BMP-1T, BTR-4, 2S22 “Bohdana”;
Poland: PT-91 Twardy, Leopard 2PL, KTO Rosomak;
Czech Republic: T-72M4CZ;
Romania: TR-85M1 Bizonul;
Serbia/Yugoslavia:M-84AB1, BOV M86, M-95 Degman.
Aviation:

Ukraine: Su-27UB1, MiG-29MU1, F-16AM;
Poland: F-16C, FA-50;
Czech Republic/Slovakia: L-39ZA, L-159 ALCA;
Romania: MiG-21 LanceR;
Yugoslavia: J-22 Orao, G-4 Super Galeb.
Reasons why this makes sense:

Gameplay value:
Players will get a new tree that is not a “clone” of USSR or NATO but has its own identity.
This allows playing familiar vehicles in a newly modernized form.
Historical and technical interest:
These vehicles exist, are actively used and modernized in real life .
Many saw combat.
Promoting the game in the region:
Including Eastern Europe as a full-fledged in-game representative could boost interest from players in the region.

Open for discussion:
Which vehicles would you like to see in this branch?
Which countries should be included first?

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It does make sense. A Scandanvia-type tree like we have with Sweden.

The major question is which nation should be “primary”

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I really like the idea but I feel like Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Thier successors and Romania aren’t needed/options.

Yugoslavia is able to be independent with thier successors with ease.

Czechoslovakia and their successors can also be independent but could be useful to add for gap filling.

Romania I believe is a subtree to Italy so unfortunately it’s not an option.

If you need some low/mid tier options, the Baltic states and Bulgaria are good options.

Some vehicles from the aforementioned countries

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Landsverk L-181 à la Lithuanian style
T-11 Light tank
Arsenal-Crossley M27/28
BMP-23: Bulgaria's Own IFV
BMP-30: Bulgaria's Improved IFV
Vickers Carden-Loyd M1937 Light Tank
VEF I-16 - First Latvian fighter
Patrol Boat LKL Partizanas (P.1) - Forest Brother of the Sea
Storm-class Patrol Boat, EML Torm (PVL 105) - A Show of Solidarity

Still a good batch of vehicles that haven’t been suggested yet like the RBS-70 NG SHORAD. They even have submarines like the Ronis and Kalvari classes.
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I have a certain opinion on a tech tree concept that have a lot to offer but I have no doubt that Gaijin would prefer just to throw repainted Leopards and T-34s to justify a separated tech tree.

Which is why I’m kinda of against this addition considering that in-game, it would have a few of unique vehicles and the rest modernization with a new fire control system or a domestic engine or something down the line.

I am currently working on a showcase ground tree of Eastern Europe (+1.0 br or vehicles at br they deserve to be at)
It is the dumbest thing that could be added.
Mind you this is an extended version of the tech tree that is still missing a lot of vehicles, it is still stupid idea of adding this, it’d lead to much more copy paste rather than adding 3 different tech trees (ex. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Yugoslavia) with Ukraine and many more nations contributing a lot to this copy paste problem. (Ex. Ukraine recieved a ton of western equipment that could be added, including Centauro, M1A1SA, M84A4 Snajper and more)
Another problem is that this tech tree would have very big balancing issues, with the top tier being made up of western, eastern and domestic vehicles. (Ex. taking T-90M alongside Oplot-M, M1A2 SepV3, Spyder series and S-300 series)
Another problem is, what nations would gaijin focus on? Obvious answer is Poland since they make them the most amount of money but that’d mean it is not a proper “eastern european tech tree”, second priority nation would be probably Yugoslavia since people for some reason show a lot of interest in them.
Problems of the 3 independent nations that I mentioned. (talking about ground)
Poland does not really have any problems besides alot of copy paste during the 1940s to 1970s with few vehicles here and there like the 7TP series and the PT-91 series. Their modern era has enough vehicles to contribute massively to war thunder.
Yugoslavia has the same issue though it is much worse, with them having basically zero domestic vehicles at lower ranks besides some modified vehicles from foreign nations such as Somua S.35 (6pdr) or the M3A3 stuart modifications.
Czechoslovakia compared to these two has a ton of vehicles at low tier, with giant problem at top tier where they would not have any top tier vehicle until 2027 with the Leopard 2A8CZ or the Slovak future light tank, only vehicles that could be added right now to this nation would be Pandur 8x8 EVO or bunch of SAM systems, T-72M4 CZ is not good for 12.7, being 11.0-ish material.
Rest of the nations have problems such as having zero vehicles at low tier (ex. Ukraine, Albania, etc. . ) or are strictly made up of copy paste vehicles (Ex. Albania)

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Hey I also helped out a bit on this >:(

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+1 for a future Polish and Czechoslovak independent tech trees

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