It would be easier if they didn’t implement them in the game because they weren’t needed… But they did.
About what people complained about.
I still see KH-38MT in game which means we already have a production plane shooting missiles that don’t exist and we are here talking about a Tomcat that had the hardware and yes , it missed only teh software. It was set by design to carry AMRAAMs, they components are there. The only thing missing was the update in the software . Go search it…
It’s not that easy as it sounds ,it would take months to do the update in all their fleet… but yes it was an update missing.
And almost no one except Russian players advocated for their continued stay. So why is it now used as an excuse to bring in this fake tomcat?
Kinda weird then, that something designed to carry the amraam 1. didn’t carry one for its entire service life and 2. required the modification of an older F-14A to test out said amraams.
Most of the documents here (and elsewhere so far) have only listed possible provisions for aim-120 on F-14s if they were ever fully integrated. These are not proof that the F-14D can carry the aim-120.
A defense funding interview is not a usable source. All it covered is “well we’ll fund this program” and “this is how it’ll likely go down if it is funded”.
This would be super easy to implement, and I don’t see why it can’t be done. The F-14D Premium could then receive the AIM-7P Block II. I’m not too sure what would happen to the F-14B, but I’d be interested to hear people’s thoughts.
You now tell me who and what complained and who supported what…
The result is the missile is in the game.
We asked for MiG 29(9-12) with R-73 and R-27R , which was it’s real set up. Gj keeps it with R-27ER that it couldn’t fire it wasn’t compatible etc. We talk about for how many years now.
F-16AJ… where to even start about it. It was never a proto or whatever, it was a proposal. Japan tested a YF-16… GJ gives a Block 10 with Sparrows…The proposal supposed to have 4 Sparrows. GJ gives a Block 10 with 2 Sparrows. It wasn’t even needed…
It’s not Yak 141 and 16XL only… You can go to WW2 vehicles (Ho229 for example) …They do it ALL the time with something.
The ONLY one they didn’t is the F-14D.
So in 1992 that the program got cancelled, the planes wouldn’t have the compatible radar and wirings (practically it was plug and play in the Sparrow slots it needed nothing extra) when till 1992 it was in the aircrafts armament list. Everything was ready for the update when they cancelled it…
They reduced the cost by not upgrading the software , but they kept the ground strike capabilities.
About sources , go read the 14s topic here , it’s better than encyclopedia …It has everything.
No one asked for this btw. Gaijin added them in on a whim and almost everyone want it out.
I haven’t seen a topic saying “the F-14 shouldn’t recieve aim-120” or “The F-14D(R) with 120 may not actually exist”
Only remaining there because either it was forgotten or due to archaic balancing reasons that stuck the ER there. And I never said I agreed with this either - those migs have no business being the same BR as flankers.
At the time of release Japan lacked a sparrow F-16, and arh spam was not as prolific as today. ADFs were still carrying 7Ms. For all intents and purpose, this is more a “what if Japan had an ADF with sparrows” than a true AJ.
I already said that the NF-14 has a higher likelyhood (and make more sense) to add. Not going to spend more time to read about a plane i think shouldn’t be added.
They didn’t even implement the proposal… That’s my point.
They do whatever.
Anyway, personal opinion i’d prefer all the BS protos/experimentals etc out , or because i understand people like them a way for me to not have them in my games if i don’t want to .
Same with the “what if” and “technical compatibility armament that is not compatible at all because the plane has to be wired for it and have the weapon in the database and if it’s older it needs hardware as well” because their “technical compatibility” is exactly that .
Yet, the way GJ has made the game 120 on 14D is 10000% justified. It has more what ifs and protos than Ace Combat Electrosphere and that game was only what ifs.
I don’t have any beef with you, in another occasion i’d say the same…
I have it with GJ that has made any proposal like 120 in 14D 400% justified the way they implement things…
This thread is stupid it’s one dude going in circles trying to justify this. The f-14a testbed would make for a great either squadron or event but other then that it’s been shown and stated multiple times by others that the funding was cut and the program shelved but sure keep arguing wit the people proving you wrong
GJ already has with BS they’ve pulled.
No one needs to justify this. I can keep calling examples that GJ has to justify this.
Yes and KH38 doesn’t exist.
M2000-5s didn’t ever have ARMAT, they were not capable.
Japan tested a YF-16 , not a block 10, the proposal for F-16AJ had 4x Sparrows, 2of them in the wheel doors if i remember.
MiG 29 (9-12) Can’t use R-27ER. Fullstop. The radar was incapable for that missile. There is no technical compatibility. Incapable.
A-7H can’t use LANA/Shrike … Hard incapable.
All the prototypes/experimental planes shouldn’t even be in the game, in fact because of them you can justify anything.
The NF-5A in the game is not NF-5A…NF-5A doesn’t have the characteristics the plane has in game.
IRIAF-14A was incompatible with R-27R. Fullstop.
Mi-28 for Sweden never existed , by the same excuse around 2000 it was …in the Greek KYSEA for new fighter we had Su-27 variants and F-15E participating. It’s EXACTLY the same issue.
Ho 229…it isn’t needed and wasn’t ever needed…Germany had another how many early jets that did fly. Ho229 was just cool enough to add it.
I don’t know how many WW2 protos in the game…
I think some of the F-15s also sport wrong A-G armament that never had in RL.
I can keep going , i’m bored though.
And we are talking for a plane that just wanted a software upgrade and had everything else.
They don’t try to justify. GJ with their actions already did (and i don’t really like it or support it , never did …i like historical accuracy , but after all that crap…yes it is justified to ask for it).
I don’t understand how people say it makes more sense for the NF-14A to have Aim-120A when the f14D had the same capabilities if not more capabilities to be actually able to use AMRAAMs. Like I get it we are aware of the Nf-14A tested AMRAAMs for the f14D but just because it didn’t that doesn’t make the f14D less capable of AMRAAMs
Then ask for the plane that did the tests not a what if f-14D I’m all for the f-14A platform that did the tests, also I’m pretty sure when the f-16AJ was released they said they tried to get the landing gear door aims to work but they weren’t working I could be wrong on that one though
From what I’ve read so far here and online this has been debunked by the people in this thread but whatever man keep saying that, program never finished, like others have said one off prototypes are a completely different thing when it comes to what they get
Adding an undertiered “counter” to an undertiered vehicle or vehicles only serves to normalize, legitimize, and justify the BR of that vehicle or vehicles.
Expect not completely different their are many other things gajin could’ve of done than add vehicles that never entered service or even have weapons systems into the game
No one here said its to counter under tier vehicles just that it’s just justified to put it with the other under tier vehicles since that’s how gajin want it to be balanced and have shown no interest in decomposition right now
So even if the f14A was the only one to test it would You want to specifically mention what the f14D doesn’t have for it to use Aim-120 other than the most know thing being the software update because it does have missile launch rails, the mil std bus, the apg71 radar etc. Like I mentioned it before f14A-65 tested it FOR the f14D so much so it incorporated f14D tech and the f14D was 90% of the way to being able to use AMRAAMs.
Witch cannot be said the same for most prototype/test vehicles that are in game
