ADATS cant lock over 10km
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dlM9NIlM9lnB
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Has any progress been done regarding giving its tracer back?
Or fixing the missile guidance so that it actually goes where your aiming…
Use the radarscreen.
Lock a target and fire while still in radarscreen.
If you let it do all the work, it is really powerful, even better than before.
Il have to try that
I just assumed considering how it works on the other vehicles it just aimed directly at it instead of leading the missile correctly
It only leads slightly, but given the lack of a tracer and RWR response on half of the things you shoot down, its good enough.
Tracer wont be given back. As for flight performance, no one knows.
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Just lead and it’s really good. I still use it over claws on certain maps
it is pretty good rn, being able to lock from 3rd person was a massive upgrade
hopefully they will fix the radar elevation soon too but I doubt it
Thats the problem only under 5km can i lead correctly but past that with how late the missile is its hard to judge if im leading correctly without the tracer and i cant even see it in thermals either
Previously i used to be able to hit targets perfectly fine out to 8 or even 9 cause i could lead it correctly
Try leading the plane’s size ahead :)
This only really works on a plane that isnt maneuvering and that isnt my issue either i can hit something perfectly fine if they are not turning even out to maximum range
But a maneuvering plane tends to put the missile into oscillations that require manual correction
With the tracer it isnt a problem i can correct the oscillations without any issue but without the tracer i just have to guess and hope the missile is behaving well enough for it to hit
This is why i mentioned also if gajin is working on fixing the missile guidance since i remember a bug report awhile back trying to get the missile to always point towards the center of the crosshair rather than lagging behind until it oscillates like it does currently
Signigficant historical nerfs and buffs for ADATS:
ADATS MIM-164 Historically incorrect flight performance // Gaijin.net // Issues
ADATS Elevation limits historically inaccurate // Gaijin.net // Issues
ADATS Slew and elevation speed historically inaccurate // Gaijin.net // Issues
ADATS Inaccurate Radar modes // Gaijin.net // Issues
ADATS Inaccurate FOV // Gaijin.net // Issues
The missile is currently extremely overperforming speed wise after 2km of flight
But faster turret rotation, 60g overload and a much narrower FOV hopefully will make up for it.
So a few things,
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this is a simulator design for a system the US did not acquire
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the MIM-146 does already sport a 42g overload, it’s control surfaces in game prevent it from achieving 42gs, it will not be capable of higher unless gaijin thinks it’s wings are capable of such
This is compounded by gaijin putting a pull limiter on the missile during it’s boost phase
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this data directly contradicts Oerlikon and Lockmart’s data on the MIM-146’s flight performance
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this data is not for the US ADATS we have in game, thus the slew and elevation data will not be accepted as it is currently limited by the M242 mount on the vehicle which this simulation lacks
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FLIR FOV is irrelevant to gaijin in the case of tank optics, they only take the values present for day sights into account
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the myriad of radar issues with the ADATS has already been reported and accepted by gaijin, they have sadly not done anything about it though
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yall getting the name wrong its MIM-146
Yep
No these are ADATS stats for the ADATS components, there is no difference other than the lack of a gun on top. It’s clearly stated in the report when they are using made up numbers.
MIM-164 is flying way too fast after the boost fase. This is 1989 performance; missiles are usually scalable to the user wishes, just like Roland could be tailored and evolved over time.
Didn’t Gaijin recently say that they would use FLIR as the baseline for optical performance?
Gaijin just used FOV to change the Mavericks, doing the same for ADATS would make the missile visible for longer.
This is official US data on ADATS from the horse’s mouth, it dosen’t get much better than this.
I don’t think you understand, the elevation and traverse issues have already been reported and denied by gaijin due to the presence of the M242, they have stated they will not give it it’s full range of elevation and traverse values due to the presence of the M242.
Still disagrees with the Oerlikon and Lockmart data which are first party.
News to me if thats the case, then I would be able to bug report the M1 series not having their digital zoom which is their FLIR zoom.
Missile seekers =/= tank optics per gaijin.
Its simulation data not official data.
Except for data from the manufacturer, which is what gave the ADATS it’s current stats.
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Trying to nerf ADATS is crazy
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Dual plane things
Slew data is probably the 90°/s he claims but the elevation might be for the 25mm mount. Either way it’s a bonus for us.
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Once I’m home, I will give the source a look
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