ADATS, Roland, and VT1/Crotale NG missiles missing reduced smoke motors?

beyond 3km and it turns like a ship

Yeah the second vid really showed me how much the roland was underperforming, there is literally 0 chance a roland manages to hit a similar target in WT

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Must have been an AI airfield defense Roland, not a player controlled one… ;-)

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m8, idk when the last time you’ve seen the AI airfield rolands shoot at anything, but theyre even more worthless than the prop tier airfield AA. Its embarassing.

Not sure why gaijin picked the worst Roland (roland 1) on the worst roland vehicle (french one with 35 deg of elevation only) as the AF AA, but its basically worthless. Ive watched players fly laps over the AF to camp it in sim and the air defense couldnt do anything.

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I know, I was just tying to be funny… ;-)

Wonder how it will be after the patch.

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For a thrust vectoring missile it really does turn like a firework XD.

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The French Roland’s 35° has been bug reported and still waiting to hear a response or for it to be implemented like the other roland systems.

Do the new airfields get new AA? A couple friends of mine and I have been discussing this but none of us have actually looked into if that was the case.

Sadly I can’t confirm or deny, I’m just as curious as everybody else.

I though I’ve read or heard somewhere that this should be the case, but don’t remember where. Just think to remember it was worded quite vaguely and could mean anything…

Edit: Found it again: Location Improvements & Updated Abandoned Factory! - Official News, Development Blogs and Updates - War Thunder — official forum

There’s new buildings, a reliable light signaling system, and positions of anti-aircraft missile systems for protecting aircraft.

If that changes the SAM type, and if yes, to what, anyone’s guess is as good as mine. But I think it would be nice if it would be something else than those Rolands…

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Has the smokeless motor of MIM-72s fixed in DEV?

I dont think anything with a missing smokeless motor has gotten one yet…

Gaijin seems to be tremendously unhappy about the development of smokeless motors in some nations and not a particular other one…

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I guess ill do a VT-1 low smoke, but i cant promise anything.

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VT1 should be low smoke
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/p3TCFtjKkK2s

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DEVELOPMENT OF A HIGH PERFORMANCE ROCKET MOTOR FOR THE VT-I TACTICAL MISSILE by R. W. Magness and J. w. Gasaway:

The reduced smoke propellant was required to limit plume interference with optical and RF signals to the missile. Use of a reduced smoke propellant, with the lower inherent performance compared to metallized propellants, made design optimization essential.

Spoiler


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Oh, i was not expecting that.
Thanks, will add it.

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Here’s the full paper if you are interested in.

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OO
Thanks, will give it a read later.

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It should be find to be used, right?
Cinfirmed it is, so added to the report.

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Btw, not sure about on other maps, but atleast on Afghanistan EC, the new AF’s seem to be being used as cosmetic location in the center of thr map with no actual game impact, while the actual AF runways are still the old style. No new AA defenses eithet :/

Great job to you and @DevilO6 finding this stuff and making the bug report! Its greatly appreciated! o7

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