The ADATS missile isn’t a fire and forget . The optic lock just doesn’t require the operator to actually pin point impact location, the optic does that. The operator still must keep the kill box on target.
Have no idea what the rest of your post is addressing? I don’t use joy stick but certainly use sniper sights for long shots?
It appears I was typing something for a different post, my apologies for not catching it earlier.
Can not agree more, I do not even bother to take out ADATS anymore
AlvisWisla.
But can’t the khrizandoma-s lock on to ground targets?
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That’s radar.
In general vehicle classificatiosn should be reviewed all over WT, as those classifications often do not make sense. Some vehicles DO have different roles, which are not represented by the “single role” identification WT uses - and the ADATS (Air Defense and Anti Tank System - it’s all in the name…) is a prime example for that.
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Yep, though in this instance, its more than just a name. The result of the ADATS having an ATGM launcher designation is that it has the ATGM launcher SP cost, not the SPAA SP cost, which is quite a meaningful nerf.
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Gaijin has yet to revert the ahistorical classification of the M18 Hellcats.
They are not light tanks. They are tank destroyers.
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Well, no and yes. What makes them tank destroyers? What makes them light tanks? Those classifications are quite arbitrary and also quite meaningless…
I think I remember reading in Zaloga’s book about M10 and StuG that those two vehicles are insofar similar as they started with one role, and in the course of the war ended up with a different role: The StuG started as infantry support vehicle, and later turned TD, the M10 started as TD and later was commonly used as infantry support vehicle.
Problem in WT is that some functionalities are (more or less consequently) bound to those classes: Scouting for LT’s, arty for LT, MT and AA, but not TD, and so on - but the vehicles themselves fit into various roles at the same time!
Literal. Historical. Doctrine.
Literal. Historical. Designations.
They were designated as SPGs and utilized under tank destroyer doctrine that the US designed. The M18 was quite literally designed for the doctrine.
Gaijin changing the designation was ahistorical and disrespectful.
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Or: look at the JaPz.K A2: in WT a Light Tank, but already the name Jagd Panzer means Tank Destroyer…
And it shouldn’t be designated as such. Ahistorical designations are wrong and disrespectful.
Big question for me is: Why can’t they be both?!?
I don’t see why TD’s shouldn’t be able to scout and arty as well…
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Indeed, but the higher you go in tiers, the trickier it gets, with everything getting more and more multi role…
naaa HSTVL is nerf’d wayy more, is missing better rounds, optical tracking, air burst ammo and even its cage on the back for aesthetics, the ADATS had its missile characteristics changed, and it still cant looks up, but defo not the worst spaa or most nerf’d vehicle in the US tech tree.
A light tank destroyer could be a good addition
They were great when they came out! They were knocking down Ka-50’s right and left. It stayed that way for a few weeks, then, just as I got mine, they changed things such that a Ka-50 could take them out, instead, and they haven’t been much for taking out aircraft since.
Agreed. The spawn cost alone over its spaa counterparts in other trees is detrimental to U.S. teams.
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I’m hopefully looking forward to this… If you’ve spent anytime with it, you know it’s no tank destroyer. Bradley is more of a tank destroyer than this.
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The ADATS should be 11.3 BR, its missiles are not worth 11.7 either as ground or as air. It’s not an effective fighting vehicle for ground making its ability to defend itself niche and irrelevant.
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