why adats is so high in br siting at 11.7. its almost pantsir br. but pantsir is a lot better than adats. more rockets better radar auto targeting. for example pantsir can shoot down 16 jagm with no problem. and adats struggles to shoot down more than 2 enemy rockets
Ah, because the ADATS can kill tanks. Seriously. that is pretty much the only reason for this SPAA to be this BR
im talking about UK one it have no GUN only rockets ofc it can kill tanks but you only need 50cal to destroy adats so its not good reason to put it that high
Pantsir was fine, until this new “free” aa meta…
Now everybody got pantsir on top tier, and it is getting problem.
Should replace it on thor.
But no , Adats is just fine on 11.7 , when thinking what it faces…
And why even UK version cant be 11.3, it would be just too good on 10.3 games
Yeah… same answer, the missiles can kill tanks therefore its should be higher. Actually had someone argue the Pantsir should be a lower BR because of that
It is a stupid argument, dont get me wrong
yea tor-m1 should be for free but not pantsir. there is no reason to give best spaa for free .
I dont think it was “fine”, but definetly better. I think the Pantsir should be 12.3 at a minimum compared to the others
well a lot more fine, when you had just S1 on rwr maybe 2.
Now you got S1 x 3 and couple new top tier aa’s and it is shit…
But now, trying to play CAS on usa, relies only on ah64.
Maybe someday snail finds way to balance CAS and AA’s.
And someday finally realises , one of simplest ways to compres br’s would be swapping mm to 0.7 instead 1.0
Should be sent to gulag for saying something like that…
If im playing 11.7, im not actually sure what I can do in a Tornado Gr1 vs even just 1 Pantsir half the time.
Im hoping ARM might be the weapon needed. At least im looking forward to spamming 9x ALARM at a Pantsir.
100% agree. I have no idea why they wont do this. 99% of the issue cases of uptier and downtier are 1.0 apart not 0.7
Yup. But soviet main being a soviet main
Well least it got speed… And plenty of chaff.
Same what USA gotta do, stay low, and try to strafe, and get a lock on tv bombs…
Now imagine 10C on 13.0 games…
And aardvark is not much better on 11.7 :D
Well , and while having 4 pantsirs and couple other aa’s they get shot down same way as they are getting now…
I rather hope getting little bit faster ground missiles instead these 0.9mach mavericks.
Because “Queue times would explode” Unlikely.
ADATS BR seems fine.
Has
-Autocannon (except for the uk, i think you said it doesnt have autocannon)
-x8 missiles
-Can destroy tanks
Remember there is always a vehicle on worse conditions:

just x2 missiles, no autocannon, no way to protect himself, big ass truck
Only the US one. The one in the Britian tree does not. (look at the thread tag)
If Tandem warheads worked and the ADATS wasnt huge and slow this might be a reasonable argument, but I think most of the time its a bit of an excuse.
These are fair, and a BR change would be pointless anyway, as we have nothing at 11.0 and 11.3. But moving the Pantsir up a bit would be the most fair option
This is not to negate your point, but it can scout. Most SPAA’s that cannot shoot at tanks get scouting. And it has the Airstrike modification. Both the Improved Optics and Airstrike modifications make it a little easier to get enough Spawn Points to bring in CAS vehicles.
