crazy its almost as if american top tier tanks across the game have low win loss ratios. and people dying and leaving after 1 death.
so you ignore how other people in the thread were talking about over clocking the autoloader?
Because they do?
it is useless its a carbon copy of the other abrams just easy 1 kill with H.E
you still didn’t find where i said the abrams was the worst tank in the game.
What he means is that, many US mains are commonly toxic and hostile. This would be fine if they were only toxic and hostile to each other, but they go into many threads and spew their hatred. The solution is for more US mains to learn to be nicer and more logical.
Lmao, post flagged.
i mean it just prove r how a majority of you people on forums are terrible at the game.
I don’t understand how you can generally have good, good faith opinions about the state of top tier that I somewhat agree with, then say things like this:
The only “hatred” (which is more so disdain) against America mains is against the ones that are actively ruining top tier, and then crying on the forums about Russian bias.
The Abrams is not bad at top tier. It could use some improvements, but that’s par for the course when it comes to top tier MBTs. Pretty much everyone is missing features / portrayed inaccurately. Just look at the Leclerc, Merkava and Type 10, for example.
The Abrams itself is a relatively high skill tank and will remain so even after fixing its issues. The underlying issue of low skill premium noobs playing a high skill top tier tank is what causes the underperformance. Compounding that is the fact that good Abrams players tend to simply not play it anymore because of the bad teams.
There is no “hatred” of Americans or America mains, and in fact the most hatred I’ve seen on this forum comes from America mains towards players of other nations explaining to them their views.
Compared to other MBTs, the Abrams is probably in 4/10 or 5/10th place among all nations.
This is the issue. I’ve participated in countless threads and topics, even made many myself, regarding issues on the modelling of the Leclerc, Merkava, Type 10, Challenger, Ariete and even Leopard series of tanks, and there’s NEVER been ANY issue. Most of the times, people understand that vehicles have issues that deserve and need to be addressed and corrected, be it for historical reasons, balance ones, or both.
However, each and every single time I’ve stepped on an Abrams-related thread, it has been brigaded and bombarded by certain kinds of users until the moderation has had to step in, issue bans, clean and lock the thread. That’s also why there are so many Abrams threads; because every time one is made, it’s destroyed by those who hate them, sometimes within mere hours. Instead of just allowing people the “luxury” of discussing the Abrams and its issues, they start to swarm the thread with insults, condescending attitudes and general toxicity towards them.
Not to mention that apparently ANYONE who ever dares to speak in favour of the Abrams is immediately labelled as a “U.S main” even if they are a 8-nation player as I am.
So what im saying just because theres someone saying toxic things doesn’t mean you have to add to the situation. This community takes this game way to seriously and think its national pride on how their vehicles play in a game. The people responding with being mean toward US mains are just as toxic and hostile. At no point did the the OP say anything negative about any other nations game but was instantly attacked and many other people continue it through out the thread.
Saying " well these guys the other day/month were so hostile im going to treat every US main with hostility and negativity from this point foreword" isnt a defense for being that way.
If this kind of hate was put toward china or russia the thread would be deleted/cleaned up or just locked. As long as the negativity seems to be geared toward the US main players nothing gets done.
Lmao at the cluelessness.
Also, people weren’t “attacking” original poster, they were anticipating the flood of toxic US mains. You can scroll up and see there are no insults directed towards him.
See what i mean. Toxic for no reason at all.
You state something with your bias, so confidently, that you sound as if you are stating fact. Which is quite common for US mains.
I have seen many threads calling Gaijin and the game Russian propaganda, insulting Russian or Chinese technology extensively, calling all Russian statements false; they are still available to this day. What reason is there for you to victimize yourself?
See you cant even have a discussion with out attacking someone. There is no reason to even attempt to answer you. You have no ability to have a discussion with out having to attack the person first. at no point did i insult you, but you have twice had to insult me to make yourself feel better about yourself and your position. You are part of the problem.
He isn’t attacking you, he is trying to demonstrate the flaw of your ways, which dare I say is a degree of arrogance shown in your responses and then you are becoming defensive and claiming you are being ‘attacked’, proving his point remarkably so…
ah yes the good old team up on someone.
You can disagree with someone thats fine. I’m not always right when it comes to things but i do try to learn. You can have a discussion with out attacking someones character and we both know the " common US mains " is used as an insult on the forum. There is no arrogance in my statements as you put it, but thinking your way is the only possible way to see does show your arrogance.
I genuinely don’t know if I’ve ever seen people to not one the abrams turret ring to be fixed.
I have seen people to not want the 2A7 fixed, the adding of East German vehicles and removal of the 2A7.
I’ve also seen a lot of US mains say stuff like “lol you want the Ariete fixed? Maybe it shouldn’t have sucked so hard in real life”
Historical accuracies should be fixed across the board. I think people are upset at US players for claiming their stuff is the only broken one, and that they get treated horribly when in fact that is not the case.
Just look how long it took for the ariete to get a reload buff like the abrams did.
In case you’re not taken seriously;
Some US mains are so disconnected from the reality of things, that they consider the 2A6 to be a cut above the things that fit the meta better, or are outright superior to it (namely, M1A2 SEPs).
That’s basically it. It’s impossible to have a discussion about Russian/Chinese equipment without US mains coming in and dismissing concerns and issues, and it makes discussions quite tiring. Even talking about low tier stuff will have people saying “Russian bias”. They also only ever seem to be focused on top tier ground(but not air), which is kinda funny.
There’s also daily threads about Russian bias, which isn’t real.
I’m not sure if you know this, but words have implications and meanings saying
Implies you think they are the worst because you fail to mention other vehicles, can the ariete’s 7 tons of “air” justify it being called an Ariete?
Side tangent, do you know how to count?
…and it’s impossible to have a discussion about the Abrams without Russian/Chinese mains coming in and dismissing concerns and issues, with a vicious disgust that I’ve only seen against “U.S mains” to such degree.
The difference is, look at the Norinco/ZTZ thread. It’s perfectly clean and United, just people discussing these MBTs’ issues. It was never brigaded like the Abrams threads are.
I honestly feel like the whole “b- but U.S mains do it more!!1!” Is a false excuse based on maybe a few punctual exceptions. The hate against “U.S mains” on the other hand is consistently systematic.
Ugh. It’s so tiring to just play every nation and want all vehicles to be fixed… these “X main” tribal wars bore me already. Why can’t mains just live and let live instead of turning every damn issue related thread into a flame war?
“Muh stick must be bigger than yours” i.e me want this, you can’t have that, cue Germany asking for better CAS, France wanting an actual IFV, Italy hoping to eventually become a relevant minor nation.