“Russia has modern stuff but NATO only has old stuff”
This isn’t the win you think it is
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Does it have issues? Yes. Is it still good and fun to play? Well for the 11.3 ones yes. I don’t have the 11.7 ones so I can’t speak on them as much. But from playing the 11.3 ones in any uptier shows me anything then the 11.7 ones are probably good as well. Especially since now the HCs are getting the top round at 11.3 soon.
If they decide not to play the stupid Russian way which is to run into the points they won’t die as easily, use the depression over hills or just try and support USSR/Swedish/German team mates, as easy as that lol.
It already does.
LOL! Soviets use RHA as well. RHA isn’t “NATO armor” as your post falsely implies.
Once again false. Kontakt 1 performs worse than NATO HEAT-defeating ERA.
Kontakt 1 is ~185mm of protection from HEAT projectiles.
M60 TTS ERA has ~400mm of protection.
SEP2’s ERA ARAT2 has ~720mm of protection.
AMX-30B2 BRENUS ERA has ~430mm of proection.
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My point is that idea is false, NATO countries use very modern vehicles in most cases for top tier. The biggest outliers being France (2003) and USA (2005)
That doesnt mean people have to continue the cycle of toxicity. Just because someone jumps off a bridge doesn’t mean everyone else has to do it
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Well for M1A2 series only i can say that
“It not good enough”
it not bad but it also not good to keep up in top tier
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T-90M fixes lack of mobility with significantly more armor.
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T-90M might accelerate faster, to a lower top speed mind you, but that’s literally the only area it really has over the T80BVM. Most of us still choose the BVM over the T90M due to that pitiful reverse speed and slower reload.
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The duality of these Forums;
Ask for Leopard 2A7V to have a 750mm KE hull instead of 670mm KE, and everyone agrees. No issue with making the strongest tank in the game even stronger as long as it’s realistic.
Ask for the Abrams to get a proper turret ring instead of a mismodelled miserable 50mm thick flat plate, everyone starts shitting on your whole existence because you dared to insinuate that the Abrams has issues that ought to be addressed and that it isn’t the weapon of mass anihilation and destruction those stuck in 2018 claim it to be.
Basically, there’s a deep hatred against the United States that translates into hatred towards their vehicles and players in War Thunder, as pathetic as it sounds. I have never, NEVER seen such targeted hatred towards a series of vehicles or “nation mains” in this community.
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Most of the US portion of this community have cultivated this unpopularity, maybe if the abrams shills stuck to their own threads, you would receive less negative attention. Then you would only have to deal with the russians, an argument more on the level of the average US main.
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Basically:
I laugh as much at those who claim that it’s the worst tank in the game, as I do at those who claim that it’s the best/second best tank in the game.
It’s just… well, a middle ground; currently carried almost exclusively by the reload buff it got a few months ago. Thanks to that, it’s a relatively solid all-rounder; but the hull protection and survivability is just sad.
In terms of quality/capabilities, I would say it’s on par with Russian tanks; except in an asymetrically opposite way.
-Russian tanks have lower floor and lower ceiling; they are strong and solid, but got poor gun elevation angles, reverse speeds and are not very survivable anymore (ever since the non-flammable ammorack bug was fixed). This means an average player will do well more easily, but the tank doesn’t have as much potential to be exploited by a good player.
-Abrams tanks have higher floor and higher ceiling; they are nimble and agile and have great firepower; but their survivability is terrible and their protection even worse. This means a good player will be able to exploit its strengths overcoming its weaknesses, while average players will struggle more to do so.
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they should fix unskilled johns playing on usa.
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The possibility of penetration at 500m is low, when at 1.5km it should go through no matter what.
I was talking about the prevalence of HHRA in Russian vehicles, as well as the textolite and quartz armor modifiers.
Everyone knows I’m talking about Russian and Chinese ERA being the only ERA allowed to have any useful amount of KE protection.
so you want to segregate the forums?
crazy its almost as if american top tier tanks across the game have low win loss ratios. and people dying and leaving after 1 death.
so you ignore how other people in the thread were talking about over clocking the autoloader?
Because they do?
it is useless its a carbon copy of the other abrams just easy 1 kill with H.E
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you still didn’t find where i said the abrams was the worst tank in the game.
What he means is that, many US mains are commonly toxic and hostile. This would be fine if they were only toxic and hostile to each other, but they go into many threads and spew their hatred. The solution is for more US mains to learn to be nicer and more logical.
Lmao, post flagged.
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i mean it just prove r how a majority of you people on forums are terrible at the game.
I don’t understand how you can generally have good, good faith opinions about the state of top tier that I somewhat agree with, then say things like this:
The only “hatred” (which is more so disdain) against America mains is against the ones that are actively ruining top tier, and then crying on the forums about Russian bias.
The Abrams is not bad at top tier. It could use some improvements, but that’s par for the course when it comes to top tier MBTs. Pretty much everyone is missing features / portrayed inaccurately. Just look at the Leclerc, Merkava and Type 10, for example.
The Abrams itself is a relatively high skill tank and will remain so even after fixing its issues. The underlying issue of low skill premium noobs playing a high skill top tier tank is what causes the underperformance. Compounding that is the fact that good Abrams players tend to simply not play it anymore because of the bad teams.
There is no “hatred” of Americans or America mains, and in fact the most hatred I’ve seen on this forum comes from America mains towards players of other nations explaining to them their views.
Compared to other MBTs, the Abrams is probably in 4/10 or 5/10th place among all nations.
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