Abrams armor

and you prove that by showing a picture of Kh-38ML?

sees criticism of GenAI as a source of reliable information
“oh so you’re calling the people i couldn’t be bothered to quote liars?”

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Thank you. You aren’t the first person who’s stated that.

Therein I responded with:

I’m not going to simply fight for a fake object to stay in the game for the sake of it.

Not going to be added as gaijin has said before because of its classified nature, they made a new post about it on this forum.

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Because it’s already correctly modeled.

Because it’s already correctly modeled.

Maybe we should let the americans know their MBT can be destroyed by a 30mm cannon from the front by aiming at the center of mass

“Not going to be added as Gaijin has said before because of its classified nature.”

Gaijin in the forum article you literally just cited: “The M1A2 Abrams in War Thunder has uranium armor in the turret cheeks.”

Classified protection characteristics literally has nothing to do with this conversation at all. There are a LOT of vehicles in the game that have classified armor protection that is simulated in game as an educated guess. It is a matter of the existence of the additional armor being technically unknown on the variants in game. There is lots of classified information surrounding vehicles in game that has never stopped them from being added, including the T-90M, Leopard 2A7, all of the M1A2 SEPs, Typhoon, Rafale, etc.

I’d also like to just point out the invalidity of that community post that Gaijin posted to begin with… specifically about the torsion beams. Not only has the community proved that the front torsion beams have since been strengthened, but there are plenty of Abrams operating mine plows that weigh more than the total added weight of the hull armor in the SEPV3…

Wrong. I’ve already proved this to be untrue here: Community Bug Reporting System

The picture you showed does in fact include the turret ring shield… the lighting just does not flatter the slope angle change. I have plenty of photographs of Abrams in various stages of assembly that show that the visual model of the Abrams in game is currently correct, but it is the armor module design which does not match Gaijin’s laser-scanned visual model.

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You argued that the height of the turret ring was incorrect, and that it should be lowered.

I said that’s false.

Now you’re suddenly arguing an entirely different point in that the turret ring’s protection values aren’t correct.

“Care to share these sources?”

Fuel cell bulkheads are currently proved to be improperly modeled. Upper front plate thickness on all Abrams models is currently incorrect in game on each side of the driver, LFP will also receive an additional 25mm of protection on each side of the driver.

This is even with the DU argument put aside, the Abrams is lacking a LOT of frontal protection.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xK4GPBS59dUL
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0CEliKysu4wu

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