The gunner’s sight is literally above your mouse cursor. It’s useless debating with a person who doesn’t care about facts and only wants to “win” the argument.
Let me make it real easy for you.
I am not talking about the EXTERNAL PERISCOPES.
I am talking about the CONTROLS.
It is too obvious to believe that this isn’t bad faith at this point.
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Intentionally feigning ignorance or just wanting to bump your thread? Either way, this is pointless.
I DO play every nation equally.
Unlike you.
Now that I took a look at your profile, I understand what all of this really is about. I should have imagined it, specially ever since you started accusing me of “having a bias”.
I play every nation.
I enjoy every nation.
I want the best for every nation.
Balance. Accuracy. Corrections. For EVERYONE - no exceptions, no double standards,
I am no “main”, biases for or against any nation are beneath me.
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that’s the issue. every patch they introduce another new gimmick that never gets completely implemented either. its just mad.
regardless, i’ll stop here, nothing more to contribute on this platform anyway.
You do realize how DENTED that sounds right? The fun fact is that hey, you’re not wrong. Still, just speaks volumes about how acclimated the playerbase has become to this kinda BS.
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You claim to play each nation equally, but somehow have an even worse opinion than someone who has played only 2. Congratulations.
I don’t think that’s entirely true, if the issue is lose of power the tank commander can operate the auto loader manually with hand cranks. if the carousel is jammed he can also load spare rounds completely by hand, they are limited to the rounds stored outside of the carousel though (which wouldn’t help players in war thunder as you don’t carry anymore than a full autoloader at MAX). It’s a slow process that basically involves poking the rounds into the gun with a specially provided manual loading ram… also know as a stick… it’s all very high tech! the T-64/80 also required the gun stabilizers to be turned off in order to manually load.
I’m trying to find book 2 of the T-72 manual that should have the procedure laid out, but I’ve only managed to find book 1 so far… it’s a pain when you cant read or speak Russian.
Maybe, but:
Spoiler
Notice the crews wear body armour when in combat zones? The Flack vest is an available modification for helis, perhaps it should be added for the crews of tanks that would wear them.
No it doesn’t
One person reads that Kevlar is used IN THE ARMOR and says ‘omg guys, Abrams has a spall liner!’
Look at any of the tanks in game from the inside and you can visibly see a spall liner, you look at the inside of the Abrams’s, and it’s bare metal
It is often claimed and argued that the Abrams spall liners are covered with a thin sheet of metal (1-2mm) which would in fact act as an additional spall protection layer on top of the kevlar.
The only source for this is some documents and Abrams crew members, so I don’t know how reliable it is.
However I just wanted to point out that there are more ways to create a spall liner other than just slapping bare kevlar on the outside of a plate.
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You see, the issue is, metal spalls, and we also are missing these ammunition types, you make know them as 3BM32 or M829 which nullify any of these spall liners anyway due to their incendiary effect inside the tank.
Not when it’s a 1-2mm thick sheet.
This is already simulated ingame, in fact. There are many earlier internal spall liners, or even external plates, that don’t generate any spalling at all because it’s just a 2mm thick sheet of metal. After all, there is no spall at all that can be generated from such a thin soft plate!
For instance;
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Exactly, all these tanks, even Russian since the 1980’s have given their crews body armor.
Yep, flak vests should not be Abrams- exclusive; they should be implemented for every vehicle which has been operated with them.
They could be implemented in two ways; stopping the smallest fragments on the torso area, or just increasing the crew members’ HP. Or maybe there are other ways.
This is kind of a Pandora’s box. Because then there’s helmets- and it would be an additional layer of complexity where it would be hard to determine which vehicles would or could get these or not, etc.
Then why does a single round from a tank massively bigger than me make massive spall and kill my whole crew in the PBRVB 551
Not to mention this spall liner is just hypothetical at this point
Because the plates on that vehicle are 10, 20 and 25mm thick.
As far as I can recall, the spall generation threshold is 6mm.
Yep, that’s why I never hold a strong position for nor against it until mo
I would assume the simplest method would be to just use the same model as in helis and count spalling as shell fragments. But I’m not sure if it’s implemented as reduced damage from specific sources or just increased HP.
I’m sure you are
The Х-38МТ missile ‘not existing’ is fine with me, remove it, I hate playing against it, that’s fine, my issue here isn’t with CAS however. If you think Russia is being babied you really haven’t played it, have you?
I play Sweden and top tier Japan, I have 0 issue killing these tanks man, in 1 shot almost every time, it really just sounds like a skill issue.
I can pull up the thread where these people whined about it man, I didn’t say you guys were, I just said “don’t”
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