And no reason for it to have a vastly technical advantage.
Take away the 9Ms and we can talk again about BR.
but then it is useless, because I cannot shoot unsuspecting enemies from horrendous angles anymore, bääääähhhh, with missiles that are smokeless and have IRCCM, bäääähhhh
Same thing with all the other “built to dogfight” all aspect slingers (A-10, Su-25).
Either live with the consequences a 9M, 9L, 73 or 60M has (higher BR), or don’t play those aircraft.
But don’t cry because other people want to have a balanced Air2Air experience.
The only issue i can see is the fact the 9m is smokeless. So you can’t see the launch. But if I’m on the front end of A-10 I am pre flareing.
Another issue is the current implementation is wrong they didn’t apply any of the bug fixes submitted from the test server and just sent it live. WTF were they thinking?
It has no more advantage than the 11.3/11.7 Su25s. Yes it probably needs to be 11.7 in sim. It might even barely manage 12.0. but Aim-9Ms on a very slow platform are not going to be that game breaking. In fact out of all the features it has. The HMD IFF is what I think is going to be it’s strongest ability.
But…
“It’s a ground attacker therefore it should be unplayable in air modes because it’s meant to be used in ground modes” is just a non-starter of an argument.
Harrier Gr7 with comparable defensive suite, much better handling and high sub sonic speeds is 12.7 (12.3 but there is no 12.3 bracket so always faces 12.7s) at the moment and extremely hard to play. Personally I think it should be 12.0.
A-10C is slower and less able to dogfight if forced to than the Gr7 but does have the colder airframe meaning it’s MAWS and flares are more effective and the in HUD IFF.
11.7 or 12.0 would be appropriate for the A-10C I think, but which Is impossible to know until we’ve had at least a week with it in game. Just because it has Aim-9M doesn’t automatically mean it has to be massively higher BR
even a week from now would be hard to know cause the A-10C is over preforming with the HMD. I don’t think we will have a real answer until they fix the slaving issue on the 9m
The biggest strength of R-73 is the HMD, without it, they’re decently better R-60s. You keep pushing this argument in several places.
I’m telling you for the last time, your skill level does not dictate how OP the enemy weapon is. Since I’ve flown quite a lot of aircraft, and had buddies do the same, they told me “flying anything with an Aim-9m is so easy to spade, because they seem to never miss, and cannot be seen”
I had one buddy that completely stopped playing anything Russian, and granted he flew both the German and Russian MiG and like them.
He isn’t a the worlds best player, but as is right now, he sits with just shy of a 14.2 k/d in his F-16C. He said the “aim-9ms were completely broken and it was unfair for the enemy team”
Also, the Su-25T and Su-39 have never been 11.3, they’ve always been 11.7
Before decompress they were all 11.3 except the Su25BM which was 11.0.
So you are saying Soviet should have gotten IRCCM missiles and NATO shouldn’t have? Or that they should nerf Aim-9M even more so that R-73 is better in every respect?
No. lol the Su25BM was not 11.0, it’s 11.3 I WISH it was 11.0 having that terrible targeting pod makes me want to vomit.
In Sim, there should somehow be a bit of a nerf to a smokeless aam, imagine of the USSR had that, you USA mains would makes thousands of posts saying how OP it is.
And no, the a-10c should just become 12.0, or lose its 4 aim-9ms, it can become 11.7 with only 2 aim-9m.
Keep in mind the Su-24M literally gets R-60s stock. Not R-60ms, nor R-73s, and these two are THE SAME BR (11.3)