A Swiss air sub-tree for Germany

Tell that to the Swedish tree, lol

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you speak of the Russian Helis? Sweden had no other chances to have anything top tier without that,…

but it’s meant to remain an EXCEPTION.

Yep, holes exist in TTs, such as Germany 11.0 ground.
Surely they’ll get filled sometime in the future, just gotta wait.

I don’t mind BR gaps in the ground tech tree, because the important thing is that you have solid lineups. Otherwise you have situations like the Puma S1 where you either need to uptier a whole lineup to match the Puma, or uptier the Puma.

Why though? Like, what sense does it make to give a exception to one nation and not others?

Then every nation would have every jets,…
That’s stupid,…

Have ever followed any Weaponary Programs, like HX Challenge in Finland or The latest Swiss one?

If we go for the HX Challenge, you’ll see that Finland made extensives trials of EVERY listed aircraft in the competition,… does it make sense to give all of those to Finland?

Namely:
Rafale F.4
EF-2000 Trench 4
F/A-18 E/F and G
F-35A
Gripen E/F

When in the end, they only chosed F-35A (which made a Fiasco Trial BTW,… thanks US Lobbying)?

No it doesn’t make any sense at all,…

Same thing happenned for EAU, Singapor, and many other Programs world wide, some of which included some Russian Aircrafts aswell.

Not every nation, just when a vehicle needs to be added to fill a gap.

Giving special treatment to one nation over others is just bad balance.

You either go historical or you go balance, and don’t pick and choose when to do so.

seems fine to me great addition i would like more german aircraft to fight sabres but gaijin doesnt like german prototypes

then every nation will ask for those, as already seen.

you’re currently making it up for germany.

yet EF-2000 is not so far away,… J-10A and JF-17 are currently contemporaries of those, no need for a sub-tree, just wait up for EF-2000.

other nations have done the wait before,… France or even UK have waited a long time for good aircraft to join the fray(some are still waiting for weapons to be given accordingly), Germany will soon enough be relieved from his wait.

I guarantee you the EF-2000 is at least a year away. Its contemporaries are already in game, yet for some reason Germany is still stuck with a F-4 facing the top dogs? Why does Germany get such shabby treatment yet Sweden gets special treatment?

Why is it that Germany always has to wait? Germany has always been a generation behind, with the only exception being when they got the MF at the same time as Russia and when the MiG-29G came only one patch later to finally give them a meta aircraft(then was quickly left in the dust by every other nation the next patch)

What is with this “germanys turn to wait” they have always waited!

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Apart from the Eurofighter and that one prop plane, this seems to be mostly copy and paste right?

Germany always had to wait what? Germany was in the past one the of the most given nation in the game,…

Germany is nowhere a great nation at those times of the game, just cope with it,…

What are you talking about? They had to wait for the F-4F, the F-4F ICE, MiG-29, Mig-29G, MIG-23, MiG-21BIS, leopard 2A7, leopard 2 PSO, Puma with spikes and currently having the F-18 being held back so the US(and everyone else can get it at the same time)

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You’re right that Germany gets stuff slightly later than other nations, but what’s the issue with not having a top tier aircraft for a couple of months?

A copy/paste sub-tree shouldn’t be added just because Germany doesn’t have the best top tier aircraft right now.

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It wasnt an exception though? Japan got a Tiger that they never even received. The closest they did was touch the vehicle and watch German soldiers drive it around in paris. The boat carrying the tank never made it to japan and no tiger with the serial numbers has ever been found.

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Why does Germany need the F/18 C before the A. Thats bot a good argument. Gaijin has already shown that adding both the early and Late models leads to both vehicles being gimped and incorrect. Thw F/18 A should be here first before we see the C’s, if gaijin adds them at the same time i wouldn’t be suprised if the A is the same BR with the same equipment as the C thus making the A a pointless addition when the A is a different vehicle. Thats a childish idea to think the US is what locked germany from getting the F/18. Yes i think germany should get a 13.7 jet i dont believe that they will wait until next summer before we see them get something. Swe and UK were both left with 3rd gens against f16/mig 29 from December until December again. I can very much see the F/18’s arriving around December with naybe the A in October.

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They added the JAS-39A and C at the same time.

And the jas 39 A is not an A. Ive had this argument but everything the C in game can do the A could. And because they added the A at the same time the C is held back. Not to mention the A is kinda in a weird spot. Had the A been introduced as a F16A counterpart it wouldve been a good addition when the F16C came. Thats not how it went and its led to both aircraft being gimped. Though im not surprised you wouldn’t know that. Im very vocal about aircraft being added like this because its a fault gaijin makes by adding vehicles much too late. This isnt just a sweden thing either cause i know what type of people lurk here and will scream any random nonsense to try and prove some point.

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Whatever i will say, you’ll keep being a german fanboy at this point.

So keep dreaming but adding Swiss in Germany will simply makes the tree looks weird,…

If i were Gaijin i would have added Benelux and swiss in a seperated tech tree of “neutral countries” which would have been better overall.

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We’d have the same for Switzerland: When it comes to extensively tested aircraft, we’d have F-16, M2000 for when we got the F/A-18, and Rafale, Typhoon, Gripen E when we then decided for the F-35. Even before that, we evaluated e.g. A-7, Milan, G-91,… , but It would make zero sense to add any of those.

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