How long did it take to write all of this?
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I wrote it progressively (it is an updated copy from the review on the old forum)
It took me longer to play these tanks:
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82% win rate for SXXI? Mine is bearly over 50% XD
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More stabilised French tanks in the 8.0 region please, great post btw.
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Thanks. There are 2 main possibilities but rather at 9.0-9.7:
VEXTRA (French TML turret of the initial CV90 premium) and AMX-30-V or C2 (see my wishlist)
At 8.0, you will find nothing for France (and actually, in other nations, stabilizers really start at 8.3-8.7). But honestly, the 8.3-8.7 French line-up is just crazy good and offers many diverse options.
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In the wish list, we could add the AMX-10RC modernisation (the latest variant used in the French ground forces and thus also the variant currently used by Ukraine). I believe it has significantly more armor on the sides and better thermals.
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Ackthually theres more than just two
MBT wise you have
AMX 30 Valorisé (M493)
AMX 30 Valorisé (M521)
AMX 30 (CH29)
AMX 30 C2
AMX 30V
AMX 30 VE
AMX 32 02
AMX 32 03
And if Gaijin is willibg to stretch it
AMX 40 (TMS 32)
No. You don’t want another unstabilized kart with a weak 105, when the amx 10 rc tml tht brings an actual 105and a stabilizer.
Gaijin cn jusr split it into normal and export variant by removing DU round
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Sure, but there is a lot of stretching here 😂
In the review, I was mentioning that the AMX-30 Super was an odd addition, since there is essentially no real documents about it and just a press report. The well referenced AMX-30C2 and V would have been a much better choice.
Honestly, I do not want a “third” AMX-32 knowing that only 2 were actually presented.
Like with the AMX-40, “new prototypes” were actually using most parts from previous ones…
I think that AMX-30C2 or Venezuela, and the TML turret on one French (VEXTRA or AMX-10) and/or foreign popular tank (CV90, Piranha…) would be more interesting and better documented additions to the French tech tree.
Below a Swiss Piranha 10x10 with the TML turret
By the way, another good option, would be to add a Swiss subtree in the French tech tree!
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Welcome to the battle between the French and Germans for the Swiss I suppose. There’s a lot of people arguing that Switzerland should only be in one tree or a part of a new BENELUX tree.
Would like to see them as being shared in some capacity.
Otherwise I can agree that France is still under rated. We’ve gotten mostly copy paste the past few years despite the potential.
However there’s really no reason to play 11.7 since there’s only Leclercs.
I also see the AZUR as a problem child because it should have been an armor modification, not it’s own vehicle.
Specifically the Sagaie II and Indonésia’s Yonkav-2 would be my amendments to your wishlist. The VEXTRA and Leclerc prototypes were needed long ago. More IFV’s and missile carriers are nice which I’ll link a list.
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There is one single stretched element. Do not let Gaijin fool you.
There are more AMX 32 that they acknowledge. The first three used the 105mm gun
Given the Piranha and CV90 were the earlier version that did not get stabilizers yet… it would be a useless addition to the BR where it would end up.
Only the AMX 10 RC and Vextra recieved such version. There was a photoshop of the CV90 with the upgraded turret but Gaijin removed the vehicle (with the older turret model) altogether form the game.
The Yonkav 2 ? it has no stabilizer though. It’s not good for the current BR requirements.
The Sagaie II could be nice, especially since Gaijin could split it into the normal (no thermals) and Saudi test (export) version that would get thermals.
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I read somewhere that it was stable, although it’s been a while. Even if it isn’t why would that make it not a good addition?
Sure we need more high tier lights for 9.7 and 11.7, but that doesn’t mean what you think is bad is bad for the tech tree.
Thanks for these infos
I realize that I cannot edit anymore the original post!
Is this a thing on the new forum that you cannot edit a post after 1 day???
This review is meant to be edited (and corrected) as new French tanks are introduced…
I looked into it more, while I couldn’t refind the source from a few years ago I looked into the SK-105A3. I’m pretty sure it was an Indonesian blog post that talked about AMX-13 variants. They might have mixed up the two.
This also has applique armor and has a good amount of documentation for being stable.
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Pretty sure anyone with 2 ounces of judgmeent will tell you an unstabilized tank at 9.7 is pretty bad and uncompetitive and that no one would want to play it
We need to be picky about vehicles to have competitive line ups that can hold up to competition and not be left with “QUirKy FreNCh TaNKs” that are twice as hard to play for half the return (sadly a recurent theme in the tree)
yes it is new, but there should be up to 30 days edit period, not 1 day.
So you might want to re-create a new updated review each update
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I didn’t say that the Yonkav-2 should be 9.7, it would be 9.0 at best because of the better engine and applique armor. 9.7 would go to the SK-105A3.
After that the Vextra’s and modernized AMX-10RC’s can come.
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As neat as the SK-105A3 would be, I’m worried snail will try to sneak it into the German tree (and only the German tree) like the SK-105 last time. It’s not as if there is no connection (leopard fcs) but Germany doesn’t really need these vehicles.
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Best we can do is keep asking for it really. It’s a stabilized derivative of the AMX-13.
Which is why communicating with the German players would be good, unless they start trying to claim it for themselves. It’s not a very pleasant thought, so hopefully it doesn’t get there.
They have plenty of domestic alternatives that we can try to help them get while the SK-105A3 is in the niche “French quirkiness.”
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I improved drastically the presentation of my review of French tanks.
Do not hesitate to mention any error/inaccuracy/typo… Thanks in advance!