A matter of Minengeschoß

Of course there was.

On the eastern front the fighting took place all the time on the front lines.
So you’re constantly near or above friendly units.

Unless there’s a belt for attacking ground targets, Mineshells should have a SD fuze.

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Ok, but is that reflected in game?
No.
Do other nations care?
No.
Switxhing Germany to SD fuse simply ruins the ability to fire long range in a head on. It serves no other in-game purpose as NO SANE MAN would choose SD over normal shells for combat as shown in WT.
Also the chance of hitting troops is miniscule compared to a chance to hit a town or city you’re dogfighting above, hence the need for self destruct shell grows exponentialy when defending your own territory.

It wouldn’t, if it wasn’t bugged.

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How is it bugged then? MK108 has the same issue, where we get self.destruct shells in the (by far) the best belt because every other one has a shell that’s lower in power than Shvak’s single FI-T for whatever reason and that includes the HEF shell.

Here L.Dv.4000/10 Abschnitt C Punkt 7.
“He Rounds of the heavy Guns are not allowed to cause damage on the ground, if they miss the target.
Solution: Self Destruct (…)
Excluded: For Ground attack from greater heights (…)”
Screenshot 2024-09-26 190525

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The main issue is that the self-destruct is bugged:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dvxLt7m0iE7k

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So essentialy it can be used just fine, since there are no friendly forces to be hurt ever present in WT and also MG151/20 shells magically disappear after 1600m (it’s 2500 in the file but I’ve never managed to score a single hit beyond 1600 even in a vertical dive upon the truck in test flight).

I love how we’re using “the right ammo for air combat”, only it’s not the right ammo for the conditions in game.

Remember, this is a game where you can literally take off for a combat mission in a propeller driven aircraft with fuel for 13m of flight (which any WW2 pilot would probably call “suicidial”) so the “realism” argument has no power here.

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I refuse to believe any intelligent human being capable of predicting the basic consequences of his choices would code it like that, hence I refuse to believe in existence of this bug, as qualified Gaijin staff would have never made such a ridiculous mistake.

Looks like you had a rough day.

NP - i am not your enemy. You might consider rephrasing your statement regarding “lowest effort research” and everything is fine.

I read this years ago, but with 3 minutes of research i found this (auto-translated) statement:

Dismantlers make no more sense than with fighter planes except for anti-aircraft guns . . . according to Schliephake, the MG151/20 fired almost exclusively ammunition with dismantling, especially the mine grenades and incendiary grenades.

Regarding the 4 seconds, Tony Williams wrote to me that before April 1941 1.7 seconds (750m) of zder were used, 3 seconds (1100m) from that date.

This refers to the book: Flugzeugbewaffnung: Die Bordwaffen der Luftwaffe von den Anfängen bis zur Gegenwart Hanfried Schliephake - i found this statement here, auto-translation works fine.

I also refused to belive that the first shell in the a belt determines the muzzle velocity of all shells in the belt, but here we are:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yzhY4EoYdQqM

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This follows the path of XDDDDD ideology. Since I don’t and can’t criticise Gaijin staff, I have to assume this is intentional, to prepare WT players for the real adult life where the world seems to laugh at your suffering. That’s a valuable lesson.

I added your bug report to my post regarding BR changes:

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