They fly at WWII BRs.
There should be a priority of domestic additions over other additions. Japan just does not need any of those planes, and they shouldn’t be added.
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The m1a2 is worse than the SEP, the SEP is 12.0.
The SEP is much worse the. 2a7.
The m1a2 should be 11.3 if the sep is 11.7 because it’s not even close to the 2a7 or Strv’s which are 12.0.
It’s a decompression issue, but if anything it should go down because in no realm is any tank besides maybe, MAYBE a t90m(because of armor) close to a 2a7. They are their own class of tank and if 12.0 is the highest everything but them should be below 12.0.
I would rather say go up, cause if we raise top tier to 12.7 it works much better. ABRAMS could stay 12.0, whilst most other things go up except for the one and only ariete which of course neeeeeeeed to go down. Also works better if we had 13.7 CAS.
100% with you. Tanks should be like 13.0 right now and jets should be 14-15, IMO.
It would decompress top tier ground a good deal.
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You can apply the same logic to the german leopards before 2a7…
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The m1a2 is a fantastic tank to be honest even with it half spaded my kd is pretty good compared to my other top tiers.
The abrams is better than most yhe competitors it is not an 11.3 tank at all, why on gods when it was 11.7 for how many years did it not move to 12.0
The m1a2 sep is not worse than the A2 either, the sepv2 and sep v1 are functionally identical bar the v2 not having tbe option to remove TUSK.
Non of these mbts should go down.
And if they actually fixed tbings like the leclercs, merkavas, chinese mbts, and cr2s then they wouldn’t be on such a massive back foot.
“Better than most of the competitors” is an opinion, not objective fact. It’s mid tier, IMO and puts it better than about half and worse than about half.
Your other tanks are all just about 1:1 or less, no matter the nation. You have 8 games in an m1a2, hardly enough experience to make a real judgement.
Seems to me you’re coming from being a British main, literally every tank is gonna seem like a godsend to you, and even then, you’re doing the same in them as you did an Abrams, of any variety.
The m1a2 is inferior to the SEP in every way. Literally EVERY way. In no way shape or form is it a 12.0 tank. A SEP is no equal or close to a 2a7. A 2a7 is a 12.0 tank, every other thank besides another 2a7 isn’t a 12.0 tank. At best, at BEST you could make an argument for a t90 because of armor and spall liners. However it has absolute catastrophic downsides that the 2a7 doesn’t suffer with a side pen. But also doesn’t have era that eats whole darts on side pen too. Which is why I think there could be a stretch of an argument for a t90m, but that’s it. 2a7’s are in a league of their own.
That being the case in my opinion, means every other one is 11.7 or less.
Did you think it was a gotcha moment or something? That would be correct, they could be. Which is why decompression needs to happen.
This is total bollocks ive got most trees at 11.0 or higher bar the isreali and italian tree.
You, sound like a US main who want
Better than
Merkavas
Arietes
Challanger 2s
Ztzs
T90M and on par with the BVM
The 2a5 is worse than the m1a2 as well.
So yeah it is better than most the tanks in game at its br.
It is functionally identical to the M1A1 HC. Ive plenty experience with worse abrams seeing as I used them before they got the m829A2 round. Also in 8 bloody games I’ve got the tank half way spaded 8 games over 18 kills with it before its even spaded.
Between the M1A1, IPM1 and M1A1 HC i have 398 games. Add the A2 which plays the same as them into the list i have 406 games in tbe abrams, that does not include the 313 games learning with the M1 abrams as well.
So yeah i know where i stand with the abrams.
The 2a7 being better than literally every tank bar the swedish variants does not warrant the abrams going down the M1A2 is better than all cr2s, better than the arrietes, and merkavas that all sit at 12.0 and the leo2a5, arguably the 6 as well due to the 6 and 5 having horrendous hull armour.
So why is it 11.7 while all of these are 12.0?
He said the M1A2 should be 11.3 thats the end of it mate.
Edit: checking his stats as well, you are just a US main whos dabbled in other trees 😂 your kds in the damn abrams prove they arent bad tanks.
The Average US team is what makes them feel bad to use.
Wholey off topic batman. This is about the Thai aircraft not tanks.
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Roger
On tbe topic of that, why dont we get any of the indigenous japanese stuff.
My stats??? Couldn’t be further from whoever’s you have seen
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If you are proposing the M1A2s moved down then the Leopard 2a5/a6 can follow them, they all share rhe same weakesses
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FFS nah i meant the other dude mate, was editing the wrong damn comment -.-
my bad ah well edited to fix it for what it is now, seeing as its mega off topic.
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then the Cr2s can go to 11.0 then and the type 90s and what not too.
or the mbt2000.
etc etc
Decompression is generally required tbh across all of top tier
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I’ve already agreed to this.
I also didn’t propose anything, per se. I addressed his comment that the m1a2 belongs at 12.0. It simply does not as the game currently stands. Functionally worse than the Sep. Laughably over tiered against a 2a7. All 2a7’s belong at 12.0, everything else can fall below that.
That was my only real point.
I think I said 11.3 but it was really just a point that it’s not as good as the Sep and belongs below it, but I’d accept a folder. Eveything not a 2a7, Strv or maybe( MAYBE ) a t90m, and I’m saying that sparingly, belongs below 12.0.
I don’t really see the point of taking this to PM but it’s clogged up the thread enough, my bad. I’ll leave it here.
You can play all of those in the US or UK tech trees right now! Crazy idea, I know.
You can even play them in the French tree if you really want.
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Or rather than be daft about this and move fantastic mbts down, push the 2a7s and strvs up to 12.7 for example.
So the m1a2 abrams that is better than
Merkava mk4s ar 12.0
Leclercs at 12.0
Arietes at 12.0
Challanger 2s at 12.0
And arguably better than the chinese mbts at 12.0
And is on par with the 2a5 and 2a6.
Is a bad tank? The M1A2 has fantastic mobility, average survivability provided u dont rush a field like a tube, has the 2nd best round in game and a 5 second reload.
It is not miles worse than the 2a7 at all, the.M1A2 and abrams objectively are not bad at all. They have two weak points, which btw most top tier nations can point and click one another easily.
So no, the m1a2 is not 11.7 worthy at all.