Slightly better armor, due to the Different casting and hardening methods on the turret face and Mantlet.
The Black Prince in game is BP #1, which had the Traditional Forward firing smoke launcher so…
That is why the Black Prince as we have it now would become a Tech Tree vehicle. It wouldn’t just be getting replaced out right, it still would be in the game, Just as a Separate Vehicle.
No it’s not, this smoke launcher is the 360 degree one.
Regular front facing smoke launcher.
Okay and? the Maus and many other vehicles have Traversable Smoke launchers, and they don’t work on them so…
Premium versions of tech-tree vehicles are typically slightly better. If Gaijin add the ability to turn your smoke launcher 360 degrees that’s a premium advantage over a tech tree one.
I mean…
- Constant barrage of high tier premiums
- Copious copy paste to ensure there’s always something new to grind, regardless of quality
- Corridor meta
- No APHE rework
- Constantly escalating war between CAS and SPAA
I could go on, but I think you get the point. Gaijin’s business model is to constantly pander to the loudest, richest customers first, then try to make a decent game out of what is left.
Would said armor improvements actually help it resist rounds the current BP can’t? It’s a legitimate question, since I’m not familiar with the actual amounts.
You mentioned that the new mantlet can resist the long 88 at 500m, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot when Gaijin’s modeling of armor hasn’t factored in real life performance (IE the 90mm M3’s solid shot being able to pen a Panther’s UFP at medium ranges IRL, but it’s completely incapable of doing that in game).
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And yet… No other tank in the game has the Functionality…
It wouldn’t even be USEFUL.
The BPs turret already turns fast enough to throw smoke where ever you need it.
Generally the whales are not the same ones that want to hold the game hostage, because whales usually accept buffs (as this would be) happily. It’s rarely the case that people would look at an improvement to something they purchased being given out for free and protest against it. The people who want the game to remain in stasis with no changes are not the majority or a relevant paying minority. Their opinion should not be considered when their only response to anything is “don’t do it”.
Also a good number of the things you listed had nothing to do with the monetization aspects of the game. APHE, map design and SPAA/CAS balance are all quite separate from monetization.
It’s arguable if it’s a buff. Getting more mobility certainly is, but taking a vehicle that’s utterly reliant on it’s strong armor and pushing it up in BR would be a nerf.
I’d need concrete figures on how much of an armor buff it would be recieving, as well as getting a feel for how much more mobile it is, before I’d be confident calling this a buff.
But they were as a result of people holding the community hostage. They want their game to remain the same (or, in some cases, to go back to the way they were used to playing/not have to adapt to new ways of playing).
It’s not meant to be super useful, only to make it unique compared to a TT version.
This, I’d like to see the evidence on thicker castings.
They aren’t thicker? Just cast different with a different hardening procedure? its still the same 152mm of armor.
But it was more effective due to Improved methods of casting and hardening the steel.
as is the Black Prince’s Turret in game has about 140mm of protection, despite being 152mm thick, due to the Subpar (and innacurate) armor modifiers gaijin puts on WW2 era Cast armor.
Post war vehicles get a different armor modifier in game due to the improved casting and hardening methods invented in the late stages of the war, and into the Post war Periods.
Since the Black Prince is on sale again, and people are experiencing the Vehicle, Im gonna bump this back to the top.
Mystery No more! the the madlads at the Hewes Youtube channel are going to be Meteor swapping their MkVII next year.
Maybe the tank museum should let them do the same to the Black Prince once they get the process figured out on the churchill.
Ahh yeah… I can pull the 350 out of my Royal Enfield and put in a 500 any time I want… that doesn’t make it a production 500
Did you not see what i replied too? I was talking about the Irish Experiments with Meteor Powered Churchills.
The Hewes crew are now replicating that project in the modern day, so that will help us understand what exactly went into swapping the engines over.
Proving in 2025 someone can put x engine in y tank… I bet you could bolt kornets on a T-34… we gunna add that too?
Someone doing something 80 years after the fact proves nothing
Huh? Mate im not asking for it to end up game.
Im just happy that we will finally learn what went into that Swap the Irish did in the 1950s and barely documented.
You really don’t want to know what the Irish did… poking into that is a bad idea…