80$ for a copy pasta with RB99 + being the worst plane with FOX-3

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80$ for a Viggen with FOX-3 sounds like a joke with the current abismal FM of the Viggen
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Even on 13.0 this plane is gonna be bad

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So even F-4F ICE is better than this?

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I’m no expert but I think the J-8F is worse

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Yes, the F-4F is still bad, but not that bad

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It is not, but definetly not the best either

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Breaking news, F-4F ICE is going down to 13.0, so hell yeah it is better than the Viggen

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you know you could just not buy it?? better for your wallet to just get the free 1, also its a supersonic with aim120s at 13.0 considering the harrier can do well at the same br with the same loadout its gonna be fine unless your particularly bad at the game.

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I’d rather it be a near identical copy of a TT vehicle rather than a more unique vehicle that the TT actually needs.

That being said, it is now official that all domestic Swedish jet airframes except the J/A21 can either be bought as a past/current premium, or is found in other TT.

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No IRCCM and only 2 ARHs, so 4 pythons 3s are all u have after 2 PL12s, which at this point, for J10 at least, I take 6 of them for the sake of their accuracy. HMD is good, but as stated by PLAAF and is partly true in game, PL8s are quite harmless due to the weak off axis launch. I would say they are about the same, J8F more manoeuvrable and is the one of the fastest jet in game, but it all depends on the radar, 1492 is quite good, don’t know about new JA37.

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Someone post the Smin +1 cope.

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Doesn’t make it better, if anything that proves that the F-4F ICE KYS is worst.

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Viggen has a worse RWR no irccm missiles, 6 missiles vs 8, and a worse radar with no datalink. It is worse on the more important factors of BVR at this BR. Not saying the KWS is good cause, its not but to be that ignorant isnt really all that surprising considering people see hur dur swedish = OP. These vehicles shouldn’t be the same BR, like why is the J8F the same br as these two and why are the Di and KWS the same? Its just BR compression at its finest.

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And 13.0 is the correct BR for it, which tells you a lot about other aircraft in the 13.0 - 13.7 range.

F-4F ICE is better than a chunk of aircraft.
F-18 radar, AIM-120s, good enough RWR.

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Same for US but F-14 is exception

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Yeah, lets see:
JA37:
-Max number of FOX-3: x4
-Max number of FOX-2: x2 (No IRCCM btw)
-x48 large caliber CM
-Horrible Flight performance for the BR

F-4F ICE:
-Max number of FOX-3: x4
-Max number of FOX-2: x4 (with IRCCM)
-Somewhat good performance for the BR
-x90 CM (only x30 large caliber)

Hmmmmm yes, the F-4F is so bad))))

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No way you’re trying to argue the F-4F has better flight performance than a JA-37

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I am indeed coping, 80€ for me in spain, on places like USA is +100$ for a plane, not even on DCS is that much

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It has better performance than the JA37, in fact, here you go, some data i collected

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Turning capability of the F-4J, without agile eagle update vs every Viggen in game

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Oh that is you
Once again, the Viggen has far greater nose authority, tighter turn circle, and higher instantaneous turn rate than a Phantom- much more important than simply sustained turn rate at such low speeds. The only way a Viggen loses is if the pilot is an idiot and keeps in a 2-circle fight.
Neither will outrate any 4th gen but the Viggen can keep with it in a scissor.