I don’t have any source, so I can’t submit a bug report. Is this really true?
Also, isn’t the caliber 8mm instead of “8.56mm”? Could this be a typo for “8x56mmR”?
Ferenc Gebauer - Wikipedia
Ferenc Gebauer - Wikipedia
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Even IF its some magic HVAP round (with rather low velocity) gaijin stated some time ago that all MGs below 12,7mm get an unified penetration of 13mm.
So i am certain its wrong. Not to mention the AP-T (iirc) has 13mm, but also the cannon shrapnell preset (see the big ammo picture instead of rifle one in protection analasys and modification window) resulting in a cone of shrapnel upon penetration making it really strong against light armored ground targets.
So no, both are wrong.
My guess is, its a typo for the 13 → 23mm.
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Is this what you mean?
Indeed, other 7-8mm caliber bullets didn’t scatter like this; they simply penetrated cleanly.
Hopefully it gets fixed during the DEV phase…
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Yes. In general thats only for cannons.
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War Thunder is not accurate to their terms and naming, so there are a lot of vehicles name with wrong or missing designations.
Not at all, at least not for ground vehicles. Schützenpanzer PUMA’s 5.56 mm MG4 Ball-tracer ammo is limited to 5 mm of penetration at 0 meters.
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I meant for AP ammo. Ap-I and AP-T 9mm (depending on penetrator size) and ball and T ammo 5mm.
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wikipedia isnt a useful source for this.
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Sure. So if anyone has the exact source, I’d like them to submit it here.
you do know there were Thngsten core AP(C) rounds in 7.92mm which have a much higher Penetration than most Steel penetrator Rifle caliber rounds
a Blanket penetration value would generally be no good
Yes, i even suggested them for the Coax Mg 34 and 42 in game.
Yes i know its stoopid, IRL the 7,92mm S.m.K had 14mm penetration.
And no, this round isnt an HVAP round, not to mention the rather low velocity of just 730m/s (if it were HVAP), the S.m.K. H had 875m/s.
Upon closer inspection, it seems all the newly added Hungarian 8mm machine guns use the same ammunition data.
I don’t have a source, but should I submit a report…?
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Yes, why not.
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[DEV] Hungarian 8mm AP rounds : Excessive penetration // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] Hungarian 8mm AP-T rounds : Excessive Fragment Effect // Gaijin.net // Issues
I’ve prepared a report for now.
Since there’s no source material, I’m not sure if it will be approved.
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Approved!
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approved with no source? how come?
I don’t know.
Perhaps the moderator had the source.
Fun fact is, Gaijin has no source either.
F.e. T-34E with 15mm applique on the hull even when angled gets absolutely roflstomped by 85mm cannon as penetration through each plate gets calculated separately, so 15mm gets super overmatched and treated like it’s not angled at all, as a result entire array behaves more like 49mm plate at 60 degrees.
Of course this is absolute BS and IRL 15+45mm array is almost as good as 60mm plate.
But you can’t prove it wrong, as there exist no study disproving the “fact” Gaijin 100% made up.
So basically the reason this report got approves is because Gaijin doesn’t want it to have 20mm penetration, as they do not care about physics anyway.