I don’t know
But suffer me when i want attack with AGM65 with this and hunter just 2
I am sad😥😟😓
yeah blame Bundeswehr are dumb enough to realize germany player need some good CAS in warthunder, Ive been doing so and it is effective lmao
but be serious, they cant carry 6 of them is because they didnt buy the triple racks to carry more than 2 AGM65
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thats switzerland, yet anyother country
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well Luftwaffe in that case
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more specific yes
The Luftwaffe unfortunately seems not to have used the 3x rails, but that is no justification for the F-4F with two Mavericks having the same SP costs as any other Phantom that carries 6.
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This is why we need itemized sp costs for suspended weapons.
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because this one lost all AGM-65 capability when it was made
it also lost sparrow capabilities and a ballistic computer
only later was it modified to accept some of these weapons again, and they only ever made it work with 2 AGM-65s
I cast “Yak-141 mention”
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No, it could work with 6, but the Luftwaffe never purchased the tri-Mav-rail as they had deemed it not needed during the upgrade program. Basically, the F-4F doesn’t have six Mavs solely because of them never having the tri-rail.
We’ve had this argument for literally years but there has only ever been proof that it can carry 2 Mavs
nobody has yet managed to prove to gaijin that it really was Tri rail compatible
if you so confidently tell me it is capable then please submit that bug report with the proof you have
Right, but you’re quite literally not reading what I’m saying.
nobody has yet managed to prove to gaijin that it really was Tri rail compatible
Ohh gee, almost as if they never purchased it so proving it is pointless. Like, I’m not even arguing it should get it, I’m just saying it could get if Germany had the tri-rail in their inventory. You’re so far down the rabbithole that you only see what you want to see and what is actually being said.
if you so confidently tell me it is capable then please submit that bug report with the proof you have
Okay, someweirdenial.
purchase doesn’t matter
it for AiM-9E and 9J, those were only ever supplied by the USAF for the US training airwing and that was more than enough proof
if it could actually carry them then why shouldn’t the same jave happened to the mavericks?
show your proof, I dare you, I want those tri rails too
Smin confirmed that F-4Fs have 9Js only for balance years ago… and quite frankly F-4F Late shouldn’t even have 9Js as I’m pretty sure they weren’t compatible with the new rails, could be mistaken but I really don’t care.
show your proof, I dare you, I want those tri rails too
My guy, I’ve been following this discussion for years and literally neither side has any proof what’so’ever. The only real argument here is that Luftwaffe has never had the tri-rail in their inventory nor did they ever carry it in the US while on training. You jumping down my throat because I simply re-iterated that fact only makes you look pathetic. Go back to being in denial of the Swiss F/A-18C honestly because I refuse to continue this discussion any longer.
if it could actually carry them then why shouldn’t the same jave happened to the mavericks?
Idk, ask Gaijin. They have yet to give the UHT its 12xPARS loadout even though it has been shown that it could do that.
I cast “R-27ER on German Mig-29” mention
On the other hand, the US F-4E has to give up its Sidewinders in lieu of the Mavs and doesn’t have access to single mounts, sooo… trade-off (?)
I remind you that we have an F4F with AMRAAMs
those puny sidewinders can absolutely go leave if we can have 3x the mavericks instead
For me the bigger issue is that currently all imaging seekers and sensors have this annoying bug to be completely out of LOS in SIM, that goes for Mav’s, TGP’s, …
And guess what…this is not all that is wrong with the F-4Fs…
F-4F (early): has AIM-9J, which the Bundeswehr never equipped
F-4F (late): has AIM-9J, which it never used, but is missing the AIM-9L, which it was equipped with IRL
F-4F ICE: is missing the IRIS-T
IRIS-T was only used on it for testing the missile and never in service with the F4F-ICE
besides that this missile would drag the thing to 14.3+ and nobody wants that