500kRP for a Thermal? China's New Top-Tier SPAA HQ17 and Old TOR-M1

or, it should be HQ-17AE being able to use HQ-17’s missile. the display board of HQ-17AE with 15km is surely HQ-17’s missile, AE’s new missile has 30km range.
I remember an old photo of HQ-17 with display board, and says it has 15km range. can you find it? to prove the 1020m/s for the 15km missile.
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You’re all acting as if you’re required to grind it. Thermals aren’t even that important for a top-tier SPAA, at least be happy you have not one but two semi-usable SPAA for top tier unlike half of the nations in the game.

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All I can imagine is Gaijin wants players to waste more time. It is disgusting that as a whole new 500kRP missile carrier with tiny changes, it is not an MBT that you could use in the ground battle. And even MBTs like STRV122 and Type 90 have folded

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it’s like adding another same vehicle, for SPAA, it’s useless.
and it should be a step to more advanced SPAA that equals Pantsir, but now it ends bad

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The HQ-17 should simply be folded under the Tor-M1 and everything should be good.

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Instead of asking others to stop giving advice, you should let Gaijin put a useable AA for all nations on the top instead of making this stupid copy and paste wasting everyone’s time

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make it right and really competive is better, and after this ,fold is better than better

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I agree to use hq17 as a modified part of tor1 or replace it directly.
I don’t think Torm1 should have been included in the Chinese technology tree from the beginning. China does not lack SPAA in the real world, on the contrary, it has a series of unique and extensively equipped SPAA (625E, FK1000, PGZ88, HQ-7, Yitian), while China has actually only purchased 30 sets of TORM1.
Instead of rudely stuffing TORM1 and HQ17 into the Chinese technology tree, it’s better to put TORM1 back into the Soviet/Russian Federation technology tree and leave HQ17 in the Chinese technology tree

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400k RP for a minor upgrade is completely unreasonable…

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Should be folded or just replace the Tor M1
Plz gaijin do some thing good for players.

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J11A and J11 are in similar situation (

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The missile speed of the HQ17 should be above Mach 3. If a missile can intercept something 1020m/s, it means that the missile is at least faster than this thing. Unfortunately, our clever report managers don’t understand this obvious fact.

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The reason for my rejection was “we can’t accept a report based on factual speculation”, but in this game of Gaijin, “things based on factual speculation” are not uncommon.

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I think we need a faster missile for HQ-17 885ms is very slow compared to other SPAA

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maybe just use HQ-17AE repalce HQ-17 as new SPAA will be good

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The display board in Serbia reads “capable of striking targets with a speed of 1020 m/s, either close or far away”. This means that the minimum speed of the HQ17 will not be lower than 1020m/s, which is obvious.

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Maybe we should chase and ask smin until we know why :)

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400k rp for such a copy-paste trash is totally unacceptable.
gaijin is so ridiculus almost humorous

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Please make a suggestion post about this

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We can’t accept this replica, why only people care about the Brimstone of the Typhoon, and no one cares about the HQ-17 in the corner?