38m cm Strummorser (50mm) front hull armor plate

[Scärlett]

Hello this topic about the Extra (50mm) front hull armor plate that strum tiger can get !

Why?
adding the 50mm plate won’t make the tank op it will help to tank more shots in the transmission !
Strum tiger is easy to kill with machine gun the round can be destroyed / 40s reload time.

Copy pasted from bug report:
Bug report link:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3340mWErv3kc

The 38cm Sturmmorsers’s hull:

The front hull has an additional bolted on 50mm thick plate which is supposed to be on top of the 100mm thick plate, not 100mm only as is currently in game.

Additional Information:

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The 50mm plate was installed on the prototype and the early production Sturmtigers (18 total produced 1943-1945) and is present on the the Sturmtiger in the Kubinka Tank Museum / Patriot Park and other museums (pictures below). Although it was not on the later produced vehicles, it was present on the prototype the vehicle is modeled after and approximately half of the production run of Sturmtigers. This would be good change for the tank to better help it against threats it faces in-game which it did not in reality which was the reason it was not installed on later models due to the belief it was not required as the armor was adequate. The Sturmtiger is a casemate vehicle, meaning it lacks a turret like a Tiger for example. Due to this, the Sturmtiger is unable to angle like a Tiger to increase it’s effectiveness of the armor while being able to fight back at the same time. Yet the Sturmtiger is supposed to be up-armored compared to the Tiger H1 and E. So for gameplay purposes, this plate would make sense to provide a little more protection helping it stay in the fight as it was historically intended in close quarters combat scenarios such as in-game. This would still remain a weakspot for the vehicle while not being so thin that lightly-armed vehicles can kill or disable the transmission rendering the vehicle useless. This change would also justify the current battle rating.

Images / book pages / 50mm plate:

Sources:

1-Armored fighting vehicles of World Wars I and II (2007) Jack Livesey.

2-Jack Livesey (2007) Armored Fighting Vehicles of World Wars I & II.

3-PzKpfw VI Tiger Volume IV Sturmtiger Tank Power 16 (2003) Tadeusz Melleman.

4- Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two: A Complete Illustrated Directory of German Battle Tanks, Armoured Cars, Self-Propelled Guns and Semi- Hardcover – January 1, 2000.

Polls:

Would you like to see the 50mm plate added?

• Yes
• No
• I Don’t care

Should the strum tiger get br change after adding 50mm plate?

• Yes / what br?
• No
• I Don’t care

Thanks for reading !

[SFmerc]

To be honest, it is all the same, even if that full front would be 200mm + 100mm composite and era plates on top of it, since it got that huge weakspot on middle of tank… Just MG the rocket and boom :D

[ShOt_MaCkEr]

@SFmerc

the rocket

The rocket that is present even when it’s reloading. AFAIK present even when there’s 0 ammo left.
UPD. Apparently they fixed it somewhen… At least it works as it should in a test drive.
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Honorable mention

Spoiler

[Scärlett]

i love the face XD reminds me of this

Also that’s true you can also destroy the gun breach with machine gun when it’s empty !

[Fourche7]

You could honestly split the Sturmtiger into two vehicles. The early one is practically a straight upgrade as far as the game is concerned. Vehicles built on the later chassis would not only lack the applique, but would use the engine governed to 600 ps (what the Tiger E should have, but doesn’t because Gajin selectively applies historical bug reports only when its convenient to their balance objectives).
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Sc6YUyYwP6Ac

I would prefer the ahistorical rangefinder be removed, in exchange for a lower BR where its armor is more reliable. Vehicles shouldn’t be balanced around completely made up features. The AVRE didn’t get special rangefinder treatment, and that has much lower range and a comparatively pathetic splash radius.

Early Sturmtiger could be 5.3, and the later model could maybe be 5.0. I’m a bit iffy on that, but they still have the barrel weakspot that low pen vehicles can easily exploit. They would essentially just be the mid-rank equivalents to the SU-122, but on crack. Could always slightly nerf the reload more too theoretically for balancing, but I’m not sure if taking players out of the game for a minute + long reload is the best approach from a gameplay perspective.