35mm SPAAs ultra deserved nerf

[AspectOfTheRAGE]

@Flanker_Thunder

so it’s fair for u to have a 35mm cannon shooting at the speed of light and out-ranging my missiles?
sure it is, ur NATO main mind will always think Russia is OP cuz that’s what they drilled inside ur mind.

Okay so let me get this straight; You are not fine with SPAA’s having the same max range as you have with your helis’ missiles but them being outranged by helicopters by a few km is totally fine or what?

“guys its fair if they cant defend themselves against me” aah argument

@Flanker_Thunder

u have proved nothing by just saying that, idk what u’re looking for.

Unfortunately for your strawmans, I do know what I am talking about.

Oerlikon 35mm Ammunition for the Automatic Cannon Type 353 MK (later KDB) (1969)

Oerlikon Munition für die Maschinenkanonen Typen KDC, KDB und KDA (1975)

Spoiler: Both covers and full page for 1975 ballistics chart

1969

1975:

These are just the ballistic charts for the full-calibre rounds, among others; PLD-044 (APHEI-T), MSD-042 (HEI) and MLD-043 (HEI-T).

The APDS-T has a higher maximum range rating, which is where the 12km figure comes from.
But I honestly cant be bothered to look up which of the oerlikon brochures I have listed it.

@Flanker_Thunder

what do u want me to do at 8.7 with SACLOS slow ATGMs and a 10.0x optic?

Ever heard of cover?
Or you know… dealing with what is a threat to you first like you should with literally all cas options in this game (ofc given that you didnt get yourself into a position the SPAA’s cant shoot - which you obviously didnt)

@Flanker_Thunder

skill issue if u can’t prove ur point nor argument correctly about something u don’t own like russian vehicles.

okay

Also if Gepard is such a good SPAA, how come that you didnt manage to get a singular air kill in your 12 games (w/ 16 spawns)?

Which coincidentally is also the only 35mm SPAA you ever played.

But sure, its so unfair that a SPAA can actually fight against aircraft (that are not paying attention to it as you admitted to earlier)

[Flanker_Thunder]

@Flanker_Thunder

and don’t make me talk about the current state of Jagdtiger.

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[UnHolySausage]

@Flanker_Thunder

do u want me to record a clip of a 35mm killing me at 3.5km or what?

a 3.5 km its possible but only with the help of skill issue cuz its really REALLY hard to get hit at that range

@Flanker_Thunder

i will fake i didn’t hear this and give u the benefit of the doubt.

the hell u mean you will fake you didnt hear it, its the truth gepard dosent even carry ahead, only PGZ09 does

[LudendorffVT-live]

@Flanker_Thunder would this be an acceptable state of spaa for you?

[UnHolySausage]

boo ahead, surely this is AI generated right?

[Flanker_Thunder]

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[Flanker_Thunder]

can’t play the video.

[LudendorffVT-live]

@Flanker_Thunder

i mean, u destroyed it, right? it looks better than requiring a direct hit, imagine needing to hit a helicopter with HE instead of HE-VT in a SPG.

you see all the explosions? they are she shots that didnt hit the target

[UnHolySausage]

@Flanker_Thunder

do u remember that u’re talking about a SPAA that fires bullets at Mach 3.4? at least using the ballistic mechanic of WT in the armor testing, it takes ~5secs to it to travel 3434m (3.4km). u’re telling me that 5secs is enough time to react at something that’s spamming hell over me?

yes it is enough time and i tell u this in my own experience cuz i’ve done it before

@Flanker_Thunder

can’t play the video.

it works perfectly fine, reload the page or play it in another browser

[Flanker_Thunder]

@YuikoArashi-live

you see all the explosions? they are she shots that didnt hit the target

did Gaijin even model AHEAD projectiles correctly?

[Flanker_Thunder]

@UnHolySausage

it works perfectly fine, reload the page or play it in another browser

done, so it’s good or bad atp?

[LudendorffVT-live]

nope they didnt model it correctly I made a demosntatrion to show you how it would look like if the SPAA were nerfed even more

[Flanker_Thunder]

are there bug reports about it’s horrible performance ingame?

[LudendorffVT-live]

look for yourself

[UnHolySausage]

its good, but only at short ranges, needs correct positioning and knowing when to shoot since it has lower muzzle velocity even tho it should be the same as the normal shells, its also tracerless wich means its even harder to see

[UnHolySausage]

ahead ammo its missing around 132 fragments, more travel time correct dispersion, damage, penetration and muzzle velocity

[Flanker_Thunder]

and why isn’t it getting fixed?

[UnHolySausage]

cuz gaijin believes it will “lag” the server cuz of the spam while stuff like the 95Ya6M exists that produces over 3000 spall at once

[UnHolySausage]

still ahead its great overall, if it had more spall and lifetime it would def be a gamechanger for vehicles that own it
this was a test done by a me and a friend, i was using the CS-SA 5

[AspectOfTheRAGE]

@Flanker_Thunder

and how would 2.5km be something bad? Gepard has a lot of space to move and dodge the missile, just like shooting at the void to scare the enemy helicopter and make it start evasive maneuvers just to make sure, which means they can’t guide the missile.

But you having to maneuvre or, god-forbid, use cover, is too much to ask for, yes?

@Flanker_Thunder

“if i treat all players like stupids then i will sound like i’m right” aah reply

I am just being realistic here.

@Flanker_Thunder

premium, squad, swedish, german, swedish again.
T-55M is different to T-55A, T-72M1 is basically T-72 with the upgraded UFP, T-80U-E1 P2W upgraded T-80 and squad BMP-2M literally just play till u grind it.

T-72M1 have the exact same stock UFP as T-72A - the sole difference is that T-72A gets to use an additional 16mm UFP as a modification - something the others cant do (at the cost of +800kg)
T-55M is still a russian design so I honestly dont care.
T-80UE-1 is also a higher BR than the regular T-80U so i genieunly dont see how that is relevant.

@Flanker_Thunder

just like i said, u don’t own a single russian vehicle, with the exception of a premium vehicle and a squad BS u can get by playing or paying. and u don’t own a single helicopter, not even the Mi-4AV, so u clearly know nothing about Falangas nor russian helicopters

You are coping so hard now LMAO

@Flanker_Thunder

u’re talking about the same SPAA that can shred both aircrafts and tanks?

ok? so what? Its most certainly not the only SPAAG that can do so.

@Flanker_Thunder

u’re telling me that 5secs is enough time to react at something that’s spamming hell over me?

yes, if you are actually paying attention to the enemy spawn, which is where enemy spaas tend to…
spawn.

cant be that difficult to understand.

You are putting up a perfect example of shifting blame constantly instead of accepting that you misplayed and then start ridiculing yourself by proposing completely absurd “balance suggestions” and pulling strawmans constantly.

All of that because you got skill-issued in a MI-24A by a Gepard you were not paying attention to.