the 30mm bushmaster used on Israeli ifvs don’t have an option to carry Mk310 HE-TF shells however the bushmaster can use it and it’s already present in the game on the Type 24 ICV (P)
But not on the namers and Eitan
is there any evidence or source that proves these vehicles have or are equipped with the Mk310 HE-TF shells?
If yes make a report or share it so everyone can support it
na, its fine the HE-TF is dog water anyways
also we need airburst munition for the AH-64s cannon
That doesn’t really matter if it has it irl it should get it in the game too
The word “need” gets overused here quite a lot.
The airburst isn’t common on AH-64s, cramming electronics and significant amount of explosive in a small round is hard and expensive.
It would be a nice thing to have though, I’d finnaly be able to touch those F-ing Mi-28s
This is not a concern at all in the game
Realism somewhat is though, the airburst ammunition is not standard issue, it CAN carry it and any other 30mm ammunition.
Convince Gaijin to give it anything but HEDP, you woun’t be able to
It might even be able to use APFSDS rounds, but I’m not sure if those don’t carry more propellant, possibly destroying the gun
After a little bit of research, the 30mm has quite low muzzle velocity so chemical rounds benefit it better
It is, just not yet for the AH-64s, but considering “current” activities of the armed forces It’d probably be quite useful for the C-UAS mission set So I don’t think it wouldn’t be a nice to have.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bbNcUpTaSDTy
That was my main point
+1
I’m gonna guess that bug report will take about 3 years to be implemented, so we’re 17% there
Gaijin has made it clear that the capability to use a certain weapon is all that is required to have it added in game regardless of if it is acrually used on that vehicle in real life. In this case adding the ammunition comes down to balancing so it is still unlikely
Theres ground C-UAS vehicles that use the m230 bushmaster and proxy rounds. It was also tested on helicopters, Im sure Israel and UEA nations would be useful for them considering they are already shooting down drones with ah64 helis, with the hedp tho rn.
Anyway for a heli like ah64 ingame, we all know the precision of the m230 bushmaster its awful, so the proximity rounds at least will explode near a target, like helicopter, and try to dissable their weapons system. Or also shoot down uavs that try to ram them.
HEDP would be good if it one actually penned anything instead of getting volumetric to death and two had any amount of HE effect, a 30mm HE round going off in a crew compartment will do more than just yellow the breach.
I’m also sharing them here in case anyone is interested:
Bushmaster MK44 cannon that specifies which programmable ammunition it uses, the MK310, basically from its own manufacturer:
And here you have the Elbit turret that they sell, but the one from Israel is a modified version, based around the Elbit 30MK2 cannon (basically theMK44) and it specifies that it can use programmable ammunition:
https://www.elbitsystems.com/sites/default/files/2025-02/utmt-30-6pgs_3_print_0.pdf
