Is that as bad as the fact that the Gepard, Falcon and other SPAA can one tap a T10M by shooting their cupola???
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Lol, I’ve posted 3 topics like yours, they said that I was against their rules now I can not post any topics in discuss categories.
Anyone of us can NOT say anything bad about panstir and 2s38, just because they are the most favorite vehicles to them
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My god even this one I’ve heard before from defenders of 2s38… and you all fail to mention that OTOMATIC can only carry 12 APFSDS in battle while 2s38 which can carry 148 APFSDS in battle…
if maths is no opinion, 148 is greater than 12… as you can see 2s38 is a totally broken vehicle.
Not to mention that 2s38 can target both ground and air vehicles, has the ability to do reconnaissance and is also an amphibious vehicle, plus has greater survivability as it has a low profile than the OTOMATIC.
As you can see, the 2s38 surpasses OTOMATIC in everything else.
Instead they keep saying this, even in their comments.
Also, the ‘nerf’ you mentioned is actually a ‘buff’ that the moderators passed off as a ‘nerf’. Being able to fire all 148 shots without having to reload at 0.5 intervals is insane, plus his cannon never overheats… This is definitely a buff.
You’re right Russian fans hate the truth 😂 and think reporting you for forum moderators to silence you is like using a super button downvote… We’ve come this far, to say that Russian bias exists is pointless to deny it.
Anyway I already posted my idea I’m not going to respond to all the jibes they throw at me because it’s pointless talking to Russian fans who refuse to acknowledge that 2s38 is a broken vehicle and should be at least at BR 11.0 and a waste of time trying and it gives you a headache.
Yeah, like I said, it’s SPAA.
No one is going to sail in the ground RB.
lol good survivability? If you can’t kill it in one shot, that’s a skill issue.
Yeah, but it’s useless. You have to fire at least four rounds to kill an MBT from the side, so during that time, either someone else is going to kill you, or the MBT you’re shooting at will.
Is it Russian bias or a skill issue? Like I said, you have to play as Russia to see the Russian bias.
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Yep you are right, what’s the most interesting is, there was a guy using a fox avatar always denies players like you and me and supports the Russian bias trash… I do not know where he is from, but he declared he was “American”, such behaviours could be counted as spy crimel to U.S. XD.
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LMAO skill problems… 2s38 Shoot every 0.5 seconds if in 4 shots, so in 2 seconds you are unable to destroy or disable the enemy then yours is a serious skill problem
EDIT: typo corrected
Time for me to criticize the 2S38 again.
Me waiting for Soviets to have even 1 OP vehicle to prove your false claim correct for once.
So you want to increase the BR of 2S38 to a BR that’s equivalent to making HSTVL 12.3 in its current configuration… to prove what exactly? All that will do is prove 2S38 is balanced where it is.
If I look at the profiles of moderators I’ll see NATO tech trees.
While BVVD primarily plays 5.7 BR ground on live, he still plays every BR of every game mode at least internally and most on live server.
Your posts are the only ones defending 2S38 at this time claiming it’s OP when it isn’t.
Others are criticizing the 2S38 by comparing it to its compatriots at different BRs: Begleit, VCC-80/60, HSTVL, RDFLT, and the 9040 series of vehicles.
If you think 2S38 is so OP, buy it and play it. Your stats will speak for themselves.
Comparing OTOMATIC to HSTVL and 2S38 is a false equivalence fallacy BTW.
I bought the 2S38 and surprise surprise, its performance is within margin of error to my other tanks of its class.
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Dude, how much do developers pay you to defend 2s38?
I see you in every post on this forum rightly calling for a BR increase of 2s38… and in every post against 2s38 you’ve been pointed out repeatedly that you’re wrong about this vehicle… In fact the 2s38 is a SPAA vehicle, but the developers put it in the game as a light vehicle to give it the ability to do reconnaissance
Anyway, I don’t want to prey on my time for people who don’t want to see the truth this is my last message on this post, as it’s pointless to have a conversation with people who don’t want to acknowledge the truth.
What do you think the other guy will do in those 2 seconds? The 2S38 can’t destroy most MBTs from the front.
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It’s a freaking game. Go yap somewhere else.
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@Hetaeron
The 2S38 already raised in BR, I got exactly what I wanted.
It’s no longer 9.7 and 10.0, it’s 10.3 which is a balanced BR for its capabilities.
Also it’s funny how you claim that defending the 2S38, which is what your posts do, means you get paid by Gaijin.
Glad I’ve only critiqued the 2S38 never defending it after I got what I wanted.
I love how your post is begging to buff the 2S38 too.
SPAA status would reduce its spawn points requirement and separate the spawn points from light, medium, and heavy tanks spawns. Everyone knows this.
Everyone also knows that SPAA status doesn’t remove scouting ability: Wiesel 1A4 as one of many examples.
Keep defending the 2S38, and keep begging for it to be buffed.
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Wait, are you complaining that you can’t destroy vehicles head-on? Do you realise that what you wrote just confirmed that you have skill probrems?
This game is not about clicking W and always going ahead and destroying everything in front of you, if you think you’re playing this game as a “point and click” then you’re wrong… there is a strategy that we Italian players often use because most of our vehicles can’t face vehicles from the front as they have much more armour than Italian vehicles and this strategy is flanking.
Also you can aim at the cannon or you have tracks if you can’t totally bypass it to take it by surprise, so you can disable it and eventually destroy it quietly…
I still remember a video on reddit where a player using 2s38 had disabled the enemy Abrams tank’s cannon and in order to destroy it he just stood there continuously firing at the cheek of the Abrams turret the thickest point of its armour, and complained that he couldn’t kill it LMAO… He literally could have hit him in all the other positions but he just kept shooting there…I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is, yes? Insanity is… doing the same thing over and over again, hoping that something will change.
And with that I totally leave the post I don’t want to argue with people who make up all kinds of excuses to be right.
Did you know that War Thunder has some maps where you can’t flank? Also, you can’t really camp on them because of the poor gun depression.
I’m not the one who can’t kill a light tank and then cries all over the forum to get its BR changed.
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And there you go to declaring the false, typical of Russian fans, also this behaviour I’ve seen on this forum before, that’s why I didn’t want to continue the conversation otherwise they will drag you down to their level and shut down the post.
Dude, I never said you can’t damage him and penetrate his armour, but I did point out to you that he has too many abilities (Thermal, recon, survival, speed, rapid fire power, etc…) to be at such a low BR, he should be at minimum BR 11.0
I’ll point out that this is your thinking you literally wrote here: as long as you can penetrate his armour of a light vehicle and damage him then it’s fine to keep him at low BR… Then why don’t you explain to everyone why R3 t20 which is literally being destroyed by 50 calibre. doesn’t stand at BR 1.0 but stands at BR 6.0? You don’t have to answer me it’s a rhetorical question so you can see where you went wrong with your reasoning.
Yes this is true, but you are also omitting some pretty important facts…The developers have increased the BR of all vehicles, not just 2s38, if I increase the BR of 2s38 by 0.3, but at the same time increase the BR of all high vehicles by 0.3, guess what 2s38 remains OP.
Anyway enough guys this talk is going round in circles… I feel like I’m repeating the same things when it comes to 2s38… everyone knows by now in every post I’ve visited or you have visited there has been in-depth discussion of its flaws and its merits, so you know very well what you are talking about, just as it is well known that the majority of players admit that 2s38 should increase BR.
I don’t like Russians; I just like their tanks.
11.0 means it can face 12.3 opponents, which is too high for a light tank like that.
NEWSFLASH the 2S38 is an SPAA IRL! I don’t even think they fire apfsds but here we are.
