Ya that sucks, would be cool to see how some people posistion these SPAA or how they fight actually good CAS players. Or even staying on topic how people traverse the map in 2s38, and the spots they use.
Why would i ignore my own experience fighting them and have some youtuber be the one to decide what i think is op or not op?
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cuz experience is reative to the person using it and there is a clear reason why the 2S38 its really op
I still have to see someone with crazy 2S38 stats that vastly outperform other vehicles from that same player.
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Get over it, and it’s obvious you have a skill problem…
Also i would like to add that you are a liar the vehicles i level 7 i have already disgorged the only one i have played with and SIDAM because it is at BR 9.7 and you can make a squad of vehicles, but the high level of italy is literally a disaster, i don’t see the reason to play with Ariete that the developers refuse to adjust armour (The website of the parent company OTO Melara clearly says that it has a composite armor but in the game it does not have it) or why should i play with OTOMATIC when 2S38 is at a lower BR? As you see 2 weights 2 measures, the developers are too busy giving the Russians at all they want, maybe another SPAA they don’t need, when Italy really needs one at a high level, but the developers continue to ignore us.
When the developers decide to clean up the mess by lowering BR Aries since at the current level everyone is wondering why they put it so high, I’ll be happy to play their game, but for now it’s obvious it’s unbalanced.
One last thing, thank you for proving that you are just a troll using lies to defend an OP vehicle that deserves a higher BR, you just proved my point XD
Next time better keep your mouth shut you’ll look better, and with that I’ll close for good but feel free to reply after all kids think they’re right just because they have the last word ;)
Said the 1kd messiah.
Ah yes, the 9.7 SPAA. Last I checked the SIDAM is an SPAA and not a tank.
High tier Italy is good. You have a ton of light vehicles and the venerable Leopard 2’s. The Arietes are fine as backups to those vehicles. Please, keep coping about the mythical Russian bias.
What reason?
Also ironic saying this as a reason to why i should take another person’s experience as fact.
Italy has the highest win rate at 12.0 funny enough
so ariete is good then? cuz the winrate is high so the vehicle is good right?
2s38 is under BRs, there is no reason that it should be 10.3, it shred and annoying even in top tier and ofc it died easily since it has no armor, does that mean its bad? No, it should be minimum 11.0, albeit its too bad for 11.3 and 10.7 is still kinda favor it
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Depends. If the players and tank suck, then won rate would be low.
They could be getting a boost from other nations and/or have amazing players.
Annoying, yeah. But not op. If they flank you, you are dying but that isnt anything special. They can do well from the front if they have time. Depends on the situation.
There are a couple places where they can actually hull down and cause problems but gaijins inability to make good maps prevents them from doing it most of the time.
i mean if they flank u and u died then its basically an “aw man what the frick where does this guy come from what a little rat” moment
i mean i dont really have trouble dealing with it, it died in one shot most of the time but then sometimes im just annoyed that it penned me frontally and take out 2 of my crews
it should be generally fine even if it got a BR raise given that out of 10 person that buy 2s38 10 of them use it at top tier(ofc with some exception but i doubt, its a multi role vehicle thats very reliable, it does AA better than hstvl or even some spaa, firerate is insane, it has decent pen and aphe, but glass cannon)
I think this is the actual truth
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I feel that people bring it to to top for the same reason i bring the fox to top tier.
They want something to scout in to get cas spawns.
It wouldnt be too hurt going up in br but i believe that is the same for basically anything past a certain br.
I find mbt gameplay to be the same since everything retains the same weak spots as their earlier versions.
Here is the flowchart for their stance.
your stats
Good: your stats prove it is op
Bad: you cant even get good stats in the op tank. Your opinions dont matter.
their stats
Good: see, this proves it is op
Bad: i dont try so the stats are not good
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You are absolutely right.
But it’s impossible to have serious conversations with people who use any excuse, even the stupidest ones to defend their precious OP vehicle… If they don’t have at least one OP vehicle in their team, they can’t win a single game… Which is just sad to hear because it shows that they are incompetent even in using very strong vehicles.
The hilarious thing is that they are using the win rate against italy, as an excuse as to why 2s38 must remain at low levels LMAO…
The win rate especially for italy just shows that the few players who play in this nation, are literally the best Warthunder players, and not that they have the best vehicles in the game, because they don’t, at best they are mediocre vehicles, and many suffer from overBR.
The 2s38 has to be at least BR 11.0, but then how do Russian players get the easy kills? They will start crying en masse… They still haven’t realised that this game is not a point and shoot… If you ask them what flanking is they don’t even know what it is because the only thing they know how to do is face the enemy face to face and then fail miserably and go cry to the developers that the vehicle isn’t OP enough.
Bro is stroking it.
For real. Just like the german mains when they cant face targets dead on in their tiger and block shots.
The reason it stays low is because of players like this bro
“OP as hell” “overperforming” “bussian rias” and “TURMS T should be 10.7” coming from the same guy, but KD in these OP things were mostly negative and some were so negative, even his blood type came with a complaint. Can’t convince gaijingx something is overperforming when everybody and their mothers has a record looks like someone who downloaded the game about 6 days ago.
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Oh wow! The 2S38 has 9.7 anti-air performance! Guess we should make it 9.7 based on your assessment!
The only way 2S38 is OP is if Begleit, HSTVL, VCC 80/60, and so forth are also OP.
Why was i quoted?
Cause you made a good point.
Oh, okay. I was kind of confused if you were arguing against what i said or something.