Everyone that has played this game for some time should say that the 2s38 is underbr and the Otomagic is too high.
If you say otherwise it’s because you haven’t played enough or because you’re biased.
The 2s38 plays like a tank destroyer and it shouldn’t.
The Otomagic plays like shit and it shouldn’t too.
Maybe 10.7 since it just better Strf9040C that sit at 10.3
So now I’m a troll just because I tried to challenge your takes and don’t take them as a gospel, interesting.
Oh, I’ve seen plenty of “experts” on this forum that bashed on 2S38 and BMP-2M and guess what happened when you looked up their stats ? They’re crap.
Makes me wonder why do they complain in the first place.
@markimash
He has some matches in his Italian copies.
Who knows, some people form opinions in a weird way.
2s39 is fine at its br.
The otomatic could go down and not cause issues.
Oh. If 1.0 k/d means it is biased, then i guess the sherman is very op.
The ammunition box means nothing because you have to stop and wait for it to reload, whereas the 2s38 can traipse around the map and destroy everything with its 148 darts without having to stop and reload, I challenge you to flank an enemy with an ammunition box while your tank is out of bullets, it is literally impossible.
And you just proved that you have skill problems, OTOMATIC is weaker but stands at a higher BR than 2s38.
The Russian bias that is present in this game otherwise one cannot explain the fact that only they have low BR vehicles, to keep them OP.
Even professional players like OddBawZ and Spookston have admitted that 2s38 should be at BR 11.0… You can’t cheat anyone now, it is obvious that only poor players want to defend an OP vehicle ;)
Now I won’t answer any more questions because there are too many problems this game has that the developers don’t want to address.
Mhm, I have the skill issue, when it is you that has it.
You also do not have a single Rank 7 or 8 tank, so you cannot speak on the matter.
OddBawZ and Spookston are not professional players. OddBawZ doesn’t go past a 2.5kd on his top tier vehicles and Spookston does not surpass a 3kd. Spookston also has sub 50% winrates on his average top tier tank. You can take knowledge from them on mid-tier at best, but top tier? No.
Isn’t this the guy who won MVP at the last championship?
Like above 2.0kd is pretty much professional level WT gaming. If you look at their stats in rank 8 vics they are mostly around 2kd, pushing 3 sometimes. The only people you see going above that are pyschos abusing low/mid rank vics seal clubbing like the guy who has a 50kd in the m24.
Average WT player sits around 0.7ish KD, anything above 1 and you are above average, 2-3 is pretty much pro level gaming.
I’m just imagining someone telling this guy he doesn’t know what he’s talking about in a thread about leopards because they looked up he was only 47 deaths - 77 kills in the 2A6 lol.
To be fair, tournaments and random battles are very different.
You haven’t seen what some WT players are capable of.
I’d say 4KD/70% WR is a professional player, which are separate from good/great players.
Is there a way to search for k/d by vehicle for players? Wasn’t able to find one.
Would be nice to find these guys that are pulling those numbers on a certain vehicle and watch some of their replays.
For instance can I easily find who has the most air kills per life in say the pantsir easily on stat shark?
I don’t think so sadly.
Ya that sucks, would be cool to see how some people posistion these SPAA or how they fight actually good CAS players. Or even staying on topic how people traverse the map in 2s38, and the spots they use.
Why would i ignore my own experience fighting them and have some youtuber be the one to decide what i think is op or not op?
cuz experience is reative to the person using it and there is a clear reason why the 2S38 its really op
I still have to see someone with crazy 2S38 stats that vastly outperform other vehicles from that same player.
Get over it, and it’s obvious you have a skill problem…
Also i would like to add that you are a liar the vehicles i level 7 i have already disgorged the only one i have played with and SIDAM because it is at BR 9.7 and you can make a squad of vehicles, but the high level of italy is literally a disaster, i don’t see the reason to play with Ariete that the developers refuse to adjust armour (The website of the parent company OTO Melara clearly says that it has a composite armor but in the game it does not have it) or why should i play with OTOMATIC when 2S38 is at a lower BR? As you see 2 weights 2 measures, the developers are too busy giving the Russians at all they want, maybe another SPAA they don’t need, when Italy really needs one at a high level, but the developers continue to ignore us.
When the developers decide to clean up the mess by lowering BR Aries since at the current level everyone is wondering why they put it so high, I’ll be happy to play their game, but for now it’s obvious it’s unbalanced.
One last thing, thank you for proving that you are just a troll using lies to defend an OP vehicle that deserves a higher BR, you just proved my point XD
Next time better keep your mouth shut you’ll look better, and with that I’ll close for good but feel free to reply after all kids think they’re right just because they have the last word ;)
Said the 1kd messiah.
Ah yes, the 9.7 SPAA. Last I checked the SIDAM is an SPAA and not a tank.
High tier Italy is good. You have a ton of light vehicles and the venerable Leopard 2’s. The Arietes are fine as backups to those vehicles. Please, keep coping about the mythical Russian bias.
What reason?
Also ironic saying this as a reason to why i should take another person’s experience as fact.
Italy has the highest win rate at 12.0 funny enough
so ariete is good then? cuz the winrate is high so the vehicle is good right?
2s38 is under BRs, there is no reason that it should be 10.3, it shred and annoying even in top tier and ofc it died easily since it has no armor, does that mean its bad? No, it should be minimum 11.0, albeit its too bad for 11.3 and 10.7 is still kinda favor it
Depends. If the players and tank suck, then won rate would be low.
They could be getting a boost from other nations and/or have amazing players.
Annoying, yeah. But not op. If they flank you, you are dying but that isnt anything special. They can do well from the front if they have time. Depends on the situation.
There are a couple places where they can actually hull down and cause problems but gaijins inability to make good maps prevents them from doing it most of the time.
i mean if they flank u and u died then its basically an “aw man what the frick where does this guy come from what a little rat” moment
i mean i dont really have trouble dealing with it, it died in one shot most of the time but then sometimes im just annoyed that it penned me frontally and take out 2 of my crews
it should be generally fine even if it got a BR raise given that out of 10 person that buy 2s38 10 of them use it at top tier(ofc with some exception but i doubt, its a multi role vehicle thats very reliable, it does AA better than hstvl or even some spaa, firerate is insane, it has decent pen and aphe, but glass cannon)
