2S38 to 11.0

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Heres 2s38 depression visualized. I can not depress my gun any further, imagine this in the HSTVL lmao.

And here is a video showing this, its unimaginably dogwater sometimes, people that don’t play this stuff never realize. I sat there in disbelief for a second, thought he died and then killed him after having to pull forward.

And from the same match is “OP 10.3 Russia on display”, here’s what happens when you take a shot from out of cover when you have Russian reverse gears. I promise you I would have made it back behind that rock in any HATO tank near this BR.

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13.0? That’s a bit low, isn’t it?

You’re right new max br for oto 20.0 where it will only face 20 B-2 stealth bombers bombing it at a altitude of 15000 meters

litearly over extends and it has -5 degrees of gun depression like any russian tank you were in a bad spot lol

I know it was a bad spot, that why I was hesistant to begin with, I knew I was about to eat it any moment from someone over on the right, but that cv was being a paid actor for some reason, I also expected there to be more than just him over there. Problem is with 5 degrees of gun depression the amount of “good positions” on a map are extremely limited vs 9/10 or 17 in the case of the hstvl. And im not so good at the game that I know every spot that is applicable to 5 degrees of gun depression on every map but im trying to find them. My plan on that spot was to use the rocks for cover, but I can’t sit behind them with russian depression and safely fire, I have to move out in the open to engage anyone there.

Could you tell me where on that side of the map I should be playing a tank with 5 degrees of gun depression? Because I only know the spots that work on my german tanks that have double of what russian tanks have, that 4-5 degrees makes a massive difference.

My point with the video is that most people dont even factor in gun depression for how strong a tank is, and it does matter A LOT.

i main china i know about good posistions on that map you can sit on the dunes on top spawn and snipe when they are going left also you dont have to use your deppression to play hull down on some spots you can use your elevation which the 2s38 has alot of

HSTVL is easy to kill guys, also most US mains are bad. Therefore we should lower the HSTVL to 6.7

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Sure as hell aren’t going to raise the br of one of their money cows lol

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Otomatic has only -5° degree depression aswell.
So why is the Otomatic not BR 10.3?

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The OTOMATIC’s ammo box means nothing, when the 2s38 already has 148 darts inside and can fire them all without its cannon overheating.

2s38 is simply a cancer just shows that the developers are making war propaganda.

Russian players would look better if they simply admitted obvious bias within the game, instead of actively defending the developers’ shitty ideas

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It absolutely means something, you reload directly into the ammo storage.

It’s a good vehicle, but very overrated by everyone crying about it.

Who is defending what ?

The 2S38 really isn’t that oppressive anymore. The amount of them killing me vs me killing them is probably more than 10:1 - They’re free kills.

That’s why you perform within your account average with those bias vehicles lol.

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Thanks for proving my point, that you are just a troll defending OP vehicles like 2s38 lol ;)

This just shows you have skill issues, which is not a good thing in my opinion… It’s an extremely OP vehicle otherwise you can’t explain the huge amount of comments and posts from people who have raised the subject in various posts on this forum, even professional players like OddBawZ and Spookston have admitted that it should be at BR 11.0

Im seeing basically no matches in russian vehicles he has played.

Why do nation mains always seem to have these opinions?

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Everyone that has played this game for some time should say that the 2s38 is underbr and the Otomagic is too high.
If you say otherwise it’s because you haven’t played enough or because you’re biased.

The 2s38 plays like a tank destroyer and it shouldn’t.

The Otomagic plays like shit and it shouldn’t too.

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Maybe 10.7 since it just better Strf9040C that sit at 10.3

So now I’m a troll just because I tried to challenge your takes and don’t take them as a gospel, interesting.

Oh, I’ve seen plenty of “experts” on this forum that bashed on 2S38 and BMP-2M and guess what happened when you looked up their stats ? They’re crap.
Makes me wonder why do they complain in the first place.

@markimash
He has some matches in his Italian copies.
Who knows, some people form opinions in a weird way.

2s39 is fine at its br.

The otomatic could go down and not cause issues.

Oh. If 1.0 k/d means it is biased, then i guess the sherman is very op.